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Junz
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we're talking about sound quality in using headset.
What are you thinking about sound quality in SE phone? is there just influence by the HPM and Acoustics driver?
if a Cyber-shot phone with music player using the same headset and acoustics driver from a Walkman Phone, will produce same quality sound like a walkman? |
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ocean21
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IMO the sound quality depends mainly because of the headset used, accoustic and driver play a smaller part.
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Junz
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so, what is the different between walkman phone and cyber-shot if a cyber-shot phone using same headset and acoustic driver from a walkman phone? |
gtr83
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Actually I think SE uses the same audio hardware for all their phones, so the drivers play a role in determining sound quality while speakers have minimal effect. |
max_wedge
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Actually I'd have to disagree partly. The drivers can make a big difference (for example W980 drivers make big improvement to W910) - however a good pair of headsets will make good improvements too. I would actually say a high quality headset (like $150 plus jobbie) would make more difference than drivers, but since drivers are free why not do that too? 
Another factor is compression. Even with stock driver and HPM-70 headset, if your MP3 are ripped at only 128Kbps you will be under utilising the equipment. The best performance tip for any music phone, is to rip audio at atleast 256, preferably 320Kbps. The next is to get better headphones, the HPM-70 is a good starting point. Don't use the standard cybershot headphones. Better if you can afford it.
And of course, regardless of what else you do, also mod the drivers, since it's free you might as well.
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Junz
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so, if just for getting a good quality of sound, we don't need a walkman phone  |
max_wedge
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Not at all. Walkman is just a marketing gimmick. It always has been. Do you think the early "walkman" cassette players from other brands weren't as good as a Sony branded "Walkman"? Of course not. Pioneer, Phillips, Teac and others also had good quality units. It's just that Sony started the ball rolling so their branding became the generic term for portable cassette players. It didn't mean they were better.
Same in the SE line up. Walkman is just a marketing tool, but they haven't actually given non walkman phones any advantage other than HPM-70 and HPM-82 style headsets and pretty branding (and in some models there is better ergonomics in the music player). But actual sound quality is fairly standard across all their range.
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Lightspeed_x
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True, i own a C702 and previously had a W710 and sound-quality wise, i find the C702 is on par if not a bit better... |
Junz
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according to all of you, which one the best headset (just HPM from SE). Nice answers if someone tell their excellent and weekness..
sorry for bad english |
Sator1973
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I use a Sennheiser HD-215; it's huge, but sound quality is superb. Bass is also very good, so I don't need or even want settings like Megabass, because it only gives me a distorted sound. Too bad I still can't get the same volume, dynamics and clearity on my C702 yet as I have on my G900 with soundModLight. G900 is my best "Walkman" ever since the early eighties! (thanks to swmail for soundModLight).
Not really an answer to the question, but to me all SE in-ear headphones suck, so I only use the cable part.
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max_wedge
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the SE in ear phones are fine, they are equivalent to Sony EX71's. But next to sennheiser full size 215's obviously the SE unit will not be as good.
You might as well compare a Golf VW (a great zippy little car with good performance) with a Ferrari F55 (a beast of a machine with gut wrenching handling and butt puckering acceleration)
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Sator1973
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Well. you got a good point there, max. I guess my problem is that I got used to this great Sennheiser after being disappointed with my HPM-82 which I just couldn't fit comfortably into my ears. And in that case it just can't sound good.
So to answer H_rY's question a bit I did some comparing of SE headsets, and the one that sounds best AND fit comfortably came with my HGE-100 GPS unit (bass reflex). So when I don't feel like carrying around my big headset I will probably use this. (haha, will have to use it with HPM-82's cable when using my C702)
HPM-64 has these earbuds too.
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max_wedge
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those kind of ear buds aren't strictly "in ear". In ear buds are those that go right into the ear canal (aka the HPM 70 kind) and you have to use the rubber grommet that makes the buds fit properly otherwise they will be uncomortable and fall out easily and not form a proper seal. They are designed to block out a substantial amount of outside noise, where as the HPM-64 type of ear bud won't block outside sound anywhere near as efficiently as in-ear buds.
Did you try all the grommet sizes that come with the HPM-82?
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Junz
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may be sator means the HPM-82 didn't suitable for his ears... it's happen to me too, when using a medium earbuds with HPM82 it's not block outside sound so good. different with a HPM-77, when using this HPM with medium ears bud too, it can block outside sound better than HPM82, and it's sound much better than hpm82. |
Sator1973
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Yes, they just don't fit my ears well. Tried all the gromet sizes, but they only sound OK if I keep them pushed into my ears. The HPM-64 buds sound a lot better, even without the blocking function. One day I might buy another set of inears, but then I want to be sure I can stick them in my ears in a comfortable manner. Must say I've never tried the HPM-70-likes, so maybe they would fit better. I guess I need a different shape of bud.
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Posted: 2008-12-09 02:53
