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Nokia to pull out of Japan |
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TOKYO (Reuters) - Nokia, the world's biggest cellphone maker, said on Thursday it will stop selling mobile phones in Japan except for its high-end brand Vertu after struggling to expand its presence in the country.
Despite its global market share of nearly 40 percent, Nokia holds less than 1 percent of Japan's mature wireless market as its products have failed to lure consumers from high-performance Japanese-made devices.
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yea g
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Lol just shows how far behind japan the rest of the world is 
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I read an article somewhere about Nokia becoming a MVNO (with NTTDocomo) and it might introduce its handsets that way.
Edit: Nokia tying up with NTT DoCoMo for Japanese MVNO?
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On 2008-11-27 09:59:19, yea g wrote:
Lol just shows how far behind japan the rest of the world is
It only shows how nokia high-performance phones are inferior to japanese phones 
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doesnt surprise me. for it to work in japan they would have had to make some really weird phones and all that for one country doesnt seem very viable.
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There are something like 88 million handset users in Japan, so its nothing to be sniffed at really.
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gtr83
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Is it that hard to admit that Japanese cellphone technology is a lot more advanced than the Finns'?
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i think its more on nokias inability to adjust to market conditions in japan, similar in how nokia cant still has a tough time selling phones in the US |
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It's that Nokia is unwilling to adapt to different markets. It is the Nokia way or the highway.
http://phoneboy.com/1955/some[....]-nokia-us-market-share-numbers
http://www.symbian-guru.com/w[....]ts-are-in-us-market-sucks.html
http://mobileopportunity.blog[....]-for-1-market-share-in-us.html
http://www.informationweek.co[....]s/2008/04/nokia_ceo_disse.html
that combined with the CEOs big head has resulted in a loss of market share in the US. Years ago Nokia phones were very present at the mobile shops. They were reliable, simple and had a good design. Like the 6000 series or the 1112.
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On 2008-11-28 10:47:54, goldenface wrote:
There are something like 88 million handset users in Japan, so its nothing to be sniffed at really.
divide that by the total number of users across the entire world and japan suddenly becomes irrelevant. japan is so far off that brands like sharp are quite a hit there and sharp otherwise is nothing in the rest of the world
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QVGA
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On 2008-11-28 11:16:49, gtr83 wrote:
Is it that hard to admit that Japanese cellphone technology is a lot more advanced than the Finns'?
I'm sorry but are you trying to be funny or what? Let us not forget Japan is a part of Earth and not some unknown galaxy. Phones in japan are made from plastic and not some unknown alloy found in the rings of Saturn. Phones in japan have some really weird stuff, i would NOT call them technologically advanced in any way, thats absurd. People in japan are obsessed with cellphones that they've become an integral part of their lives, much more than ours, so they phones have features that gets them through their day. Here's a quote from an article regarding Japanese phones:
"Claude's typical day starts with him checking his email on his phone. He gets all his daily tasks and calendaring events this way. He then syncs it with his computer. He pays for the subway by placing the phone on a kiosk granting him access past the gates. The commute is spent watching TV on his phone by rotating the screen. A small antenna extends up and catches the wireless digital TV signals (something we will never have here in America). About 45 minutes later, he's in Tokyo and heads to a vending machine to buy fresh fruit and water. He places the phone up against a pad. The vending machine reads his bank information which is tied into his phone. He then places his thumb on the phone's tiny thumbprint reader to verify his identity. As he makes his way to the office, he waves the phone near the door handle to unlock it. During a 10 minute break, he's flips thru a magazine and sees something he wants to buy. The item has a tiny stamp size barcode pictogram next to it. He scans the pictogram with his phone. A receipt and shipping confirmation hits his email minutes later. As the day ends, he syncs with his work computer and goes grocery shopping paying for items with his phone. Before heading home, he heads to a bar his friend has invited him too. He uses the phone to give him step-by-step directions. The day is finally over and his phone's battery is nearing the end of its life. He plugs it in and goes about the rest of the evening relaxing before bed. "
Now do you know what i mean by being obsessed with phones? No one in the rest of the world would want to do half those things through cellphones. Actually some of those things just make me pitty such people in japan whose core part of their lives is a mere phone. Basically what i mean is that Japanese way of cellphones is so diverse than us that for some companies, its more of a hastle than anything to invest there.
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I totaly agree! I actualy so that article on CNN a year ago, some people in the construction business in Japan even keep their Blueprints in their phones, its all a little too much, but very practical for them i guess. Except for their phone screen resolutions and cameras i dont see any features that they have over some of our devices like E90, X1, 5800xm, N95, TouchPro, Touch HD, etc. . .
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On 2008-11-29 07:54:51, QVGA wrote:
On 2008-11-28 10:47:54, goldenface wrote:
There are something like 88 million handset users in Japan, so its nothing to be sniffed at really.
divide that by the total number of users across the entire world and japan suddenly becomes irrelevant. japan is so far off that brands like sharp are quite a hit there and sharp otherwise is nothing in the rest of the world
sharp are quite popular in taiwan and mainland china due to grey market exports, and the recent sales of the models are doing quite well for the niche of starting small and slowly expanding. And I do think areas where japan does have strong cultural influence such as east asia, they are more known.
Though I do wonder what would happen if Nokia did pull out of North America outside of their ultra low end prepaid phones for tracfone and other telcos and the reaction would be.
[ This Message was edited by: aw614 on 2008-11-29 07:46 ] |
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