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hansen
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Posted: 2008-11-04 20:54
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I have come to a point where I really need to get the facts straight about video containers and codecs. I really really liked M3 for converting movies to watch on my K800 (yes, I can enjoy a feature film on its bright, sharp 2" screen). Importing these movies to my C905 though, I can't get them to play. Instead I have taken to using Super, producing mp4:s with video mpeg4 and audio AAC. The outcome I find inferior to that of M3. Low light scenes are plagued with bad smearing and compression effects.

My first questions deal with containers and codecs. I understand mp4 being one 'container', 3gp another. Is mp4 always superior to 3gp? And what about video codecs? Xvid/Divx are codecs, right? What's the difference? Will SE feature phones play anything encoded with some of these? Or is mpeg4 my best choice here?

My second question is: why will my K800 play files my C905 won't? Using M3, I have always chosen "video codec XviD MPEG4 simple". Meaning what? Is the codec XviD or mpeg4? The audio codec is LC-AAC. The difference from just AAC? Which setting is it the C905 does not like? I use a bitrate of 336 kbps and a framerate of 25 fps.

Well...sigh.

[ This Message was edited by: hansen on 2008-11-04 19:55 ]
daviep
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Posted: 2008-11-04 21:35
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i use jet audio(cowan media centre)which i find is really good.
hansen
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Posted: 2008-11-04 21:42
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Really? Will it crop 16:9 to 4:3 if desired?
daviep
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Posted: 2008-11-04 21:45
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yes
hansen
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Posted: 2008-11-04 21:48
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Will I need to purchase or is the free version enough for converting movies? List of features states free version is limited to 30 secs of "video encoding".
Arne Anka
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Posted: 2008-11-04 23:07
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@hansen

Simply put, XviD is just the open source variant of DivX (its not a coincidence DivX spelled backwards become XviD). Both are just names of codecs, not names of video formats. The name of the video format both uses is MPEG-4. To some extent, both codecs are exchangable with each other i.e. most videos encoded with XviD can be played in a DivX player and vice versa (compatibility issues may arise if "special" codec settings have been used to encode a video).

Video formats are usually not restricted to any particular container/file format. Container/file formats are on the other hand usually restricted to what video and audio formats they can carry. In generl, it's the video format and not the file/container format that decides the quality level. 3GP is just a simplified version of MP4 and can carry less video and audio formats.

That's all info I could gather on the internet for you. Hope it resolves some of your questions.


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hansen
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Posted: 2008-11-05 00:26
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Thanks for your response. I will look further into this in the days to follow.
max_wedge
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Posted: 2008-11-05 06:39
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With Super, I use mp4, xvid codec, 336Kbps, 25 fps, 320x240, 11:9, high quality.
aac audio.

I seem to get acceptable results. Don't use the "Sony Ericsson 3gp" option if you are - 3gp is a low quality version of MP4 for mobile devices (old mobile devices - before they got powerful)
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