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balazsvok
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Posted: 2008-09-10 21:50
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Hi there!

I'm thinking about buying a new phone, but I can't really decide between these two phones.
Mainly, I would use it as a music player, but as I know, w890i has a really crappy camera, so my main question is:
How is the w890i's music quality compared to k850i's? Is it a way better?
Because if not, I think I should buy the k850, it costs more only 30 euros.

Thanks in advance for your help!
plankgatan
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Posted: 2008-09-10 21:57
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k850 with latest firmware works like a clock. i should easily choose that phone instead of w890

all A200 phones (w910, w760, w890, k850, c702, c902, etc) have same sound (except for w980 who have better bass & clear audio experience), so its no difference between the sound at w890 and k850.





[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-09-10 21:07 ]
balazsvok
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Posted: 2008-09-10 22:01
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thank you very much for this fast, clear, detailed answer!
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Posted: 2008-09-10 22:06
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K850i of course
marty mcfly
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Posted: 2008-09-10 23:00
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The K850i does not run like clockwork, even with the latest firmware. Maybe if you are lucky, like a few guys in here to get a good handset, yes.

But just look at the K850i Firmware Overview Thread, and you will see dozens and dozens of people with nightmare stories of the K850i. There is a reason they have stopped making it so soon.

I would choose the W890i, it is more reliable. The K850i is yesterdays phone and is loaded with potential problems.

If however you consider the camera poor, look elsewhere. The K800i, K810i, K770i & C902 for example have great cameras and are very reliable.

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Posted: 2008-09-11 12:47
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That's a very good and objective response there marty!
Go for the K850i at your own risk. As stated above, you may be lucky and get a decent. The W890i on the other hand is as stable as a rock, I have one and I can assure you it is good.

The differences between the two are: better camera on the K850i (auto focus and 5Mp) and the accelerometer. Oh, the screen is slightly bigger on the K850i- 2.2 vs 2 inches.

The W890i is slimmer and better built. The negatives on the W890i are- weak speaker for ringtones (tiny sound) and tiny keypad. Its vibrate function is also rather weak.

So, weigh your options carefully and decide. You may also want to consider the C902 as mentioned by marty.
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plankgatan
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Posted: 2008-09-11 12:56
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you wrong.... mostly all k850 users ive seen/heard have normal working firmwares. i have read quite many other Nordic/abroad forums and there is not many who complain about the new firmwares.

besides, my unbranded k850 with 031 fw works like a clock, it take good pics, it runs smothly, etc, etc...so yes, K850 is a better choice. (i will suggest unbranded here)

(you think this ~20 people who have issues with latest firmwares (here on esato software forum) make the global truth about latest firmware ???? of course not.

.most people with full working k850 dosent even speak inside the software forum, just because its no problem to speak about.


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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-09-11 12:10 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-11 13:05
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We're not living in a vacuum, there's life outside Esato. You've always defended the K850i even when others had a hard with it. Now, if you read my post carefully you'll realise that the OP has choices. There are people I know who still have problems with their K850s.

Try and be objective for once. I pointed that the OP may be lucky enough to get a decent K850i. I never for once implied that all K850s are bad.
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plankgatan
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Posted: 2008-09-11 13:16
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oohhh, you know people who have problem with k850.., thats big news.
(yep, that must be the global truth about k850 latest firmwares)

i have/had two k850, both work good. (now i talk about the UI/interface)

first fw was unstable, but new ones is more stable, runs more smothly. (now i talk about the UI/interface)

i (also) know several friends with k850 and they have no major problems.

the only thing i know is that the mediaplayer runs little slower if you use a lot of stuff, (but thats quite normal), and auto pics dosent have good colors...thats it i guess.



ps...i give a ratass about defending k850 or not..its a very good phone in my eyes.
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Posted: 2008-09-11 13:27
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Yes, plangkatan, you're right as always. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the great almighty K850i.
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plankgatan
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Posted: 2008-09-11 13:33
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you really think make a crappy flagships ???? (every phone(flagship) from t610 to c902 have been great in my use).
let me remaind you its software we speak about...not the phone herself...yes, ok.

and im feeling sorry for this guys who got brod, etc...its not accepted of to punch out so bad firmwares...but once again, if you dont get brod, etc, and have a normal firmware...you have a good phone.



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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-09-11 12:43 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-11 13:42
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Unfortunately, I'm not going to continue with debating/arguing with you since you selectively read my posts. You had two perfectly working K850s, that's great! One thing you shouldn't think is that everybody else is as "lucky"as you, a fact that seems to always escape you. So, continue to live in your world where there aren't any problems with the K850i and all those who have problems are delusional.
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plankgatan
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Posted: 2008-09-11 13:47
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i understood your point from the first post...ok.

just a short question...have you experience k850 yourself, or is it just your friends, etc, oppinions you establish your "fact" on.



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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-09-11 12:49 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-11 13:54
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I had a K850i which was an absolute pile of junk. UI was slow, programs crashed, alarm wouldn't go off, it was a nightmare.
I know of 3 people at work with K850i's who have had endless problems with the phone crashing, freezing, bricking etc etc.
Just because a lot of people have had good units, doesn't mean you can automatically ignore those in the Firmware Thread. They all have the same phone too, and it didn't work. That shows the phone is not a 100% reliable model as a whole, not just from handset to handset.

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[ This Message was edited by: marty mcfly on 2008-09-11 16:16 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-11 14:09
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Yes, plangk I have used a friend's K850i for two weeks while trying to decide between it and my current W890i. And that is as recent as last month.

The good: sharp and clear screen- slightly bigger than the W890i, good earpiece volume, sufficient ring volume, good photos- didn't however try the flash.

The bad: build quality is so so, froze on me twice, lagged when playing music.

She said she had the latest firmware. Now, when I compare that to my W890i which I never experienced any of the above then it still has some problems. Before you say it is just one person I have 3 more people who have issues with it. One friend and two colleagues. Add to that the complaints here on Esato and other related sites it clearly is not where it should be.

I took a decision not to buy it based on those 4 people's input and research and I am happy with the W890i.

I don't think it is completely stable, probably the next firmware(s) updates.
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