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Bonovox
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Posted: 2008-08-23 13:21
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Problem is with the claim of full VGA video on phones is its just not the case. I have had Nokia phones with so called VGA recording and it was really grainy on pc screen. Think their fooling us. I would also not just go for the SonyEricsson cos of track id just does not bother me. I would go for it cos i prefer their brand and their quailty. Every review i have read of LG touch screen phones have complained of usability issues. Not long ago alot of SE phones i thought were poor but recently i think their improving again. I would choose SE over LG despite LG's improvements and specs. I would also choose Nokia over LG cos i have tried LG and im not fond of them.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 13:23
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Bonovox,

You do realize what VGA is, right? It has nothing to do with the quality, merely the resolution, and that is indeed VGA, so you shouldn't go there.

What you're saying is the exact same as saying a 5 mp cam phone is better than a 3 mp cam phone.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 13:27
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On 2008-08-23 13:15:32, Mizzle wrote:
ISO up to 1600 in a cameraphone? Nice, that'll give you some very noisy pictures on that tiny camera sensor.

Anyway, I'd still prefer C905 over this any day because it lacks a keypad.

Other than that, it looks good. Let's just hope LG won't put an awfully slow and sluggish UI in this, and that they don't mess up with the GPS and wifi, as it would kill what seems to be a decent phone.

[ This Message was edited by: Mizzle on 2008-08-23 12:20 ]


All CMOS based camphones produces noisy pics from ISO 200 and above. they should have used CCD instead if they are aiming to give users the real benefit of ISO1600. in fact even a S700 produces images with an ISO sensitivity of 2000 i had a chance to compare it with my old W800 shot at ISO 800 and believe it or not the noise and graininess is much worse on my W800.

also I hate the fact that LG ditches the ATi CPu on their flagship phones. they used it on LG Prada but was withdrawn with Viewty. and given LG's lack of experience with Java Platform i'm pretty sure the beauty of it's flashy UI will slowly fade until user will find the phone useless functionality wise.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 13:31
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razec that's not true either. CMOS is better than CCD these days, and the majority of dslr cameras are based on CMOS sensors as well.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 13:37
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On 2008-08-23 13:31:30, Mizzle wrote:
razec that's not true either. CMOS is better than CCD these days, and the majority of dslr cameras are based on CMOS sensors as well.



no i'm pointing out at tiny CMOS chips inside camphones not the large APS type matrices on dslrs

anyway, upon reading some more news, i notice that this phone lacks something: DLNA?
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Posted: 2008-08-23 13:40
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Well, that does depend on the manufacturer's choices. You could get a small CMOS sensor that'll perform as well as a small CCD sensor, but I would probably be a bit more expensive.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 13:47
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I read in some camera mag that CMOS produces better colours. Im non the wiser on that though.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 13:54
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That has nothing to do with what kind of sensor it is, rather the specific sensor and the software.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 18:09
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On 2008-08-23 13:08:34, razec wrote:
You guys really think that this phone has much better specs than C905 as i see it the only thing that this phone has to brag over the C905 was the better video recording. everything about the platform's flexibility and functionality is still questionable we all know that and since this is a non-Os phone it supports java applications, i wonder how can this beat C905's powerful a200 platform esp. that java applications have some issues dealing with touchscreen interfaces

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Picsel file Viewer,I know there are lot of people want the pdf,doc,xls,pps.
That is not a checkbox feature.

Ill agree ISO 1600 is just a checkbox feature,but at least we have an option.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 19:19
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You have to give LG credit because they are moving fast. We're still waiting for to give us something really special and all the while, LG is churning out good phones. For a 'small' company, that is a quality looking product.

The way I see it, the LG has a touchscreen, top video recording and looks lovely. The C905 looks worse IMO. Its all a matter of opinion but don't slam LG, they have come a long way. is just so dull recently, a lot of ugly, recycled and boring phones.
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Posted: 2008-09-04 13:50
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New pics on gsmarena:

http://www.gsmarena.com/showp[....]nd-appearance/gsmarena_003.jpg

http://www.gsmarena.com/showp[....]nd-appearance/gsmarena_002.jpg

It looks and promises very well! Expected release in october.
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Posted: 2008-09-04 14:09
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Is that a combination of led and xenon flash I see there?
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A led where there is the xenon? Don’t think so, the led that can be used for video is below it, nevertheless the xenon flash looks strange.
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Posted: 2008-09-04 15:08
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On 2008-09-04 14:36:52, -PERFECT- wrote:
A led where there is the xenon?...

lol, no.

... Don’t think so, the led that can be used for video is below it, nevertheless the xenon flash looks strange.



Yeah, that's what I thought.
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Posted: 2008-09-04 15:21
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On 2008-08-23 13:31:30, Mizzle wrote:
razec that's not true either. CMOS is better than CCD these days, and the majority of dslr cameras are based on CMOS sensors as well.


Yeah, as you say in DSLR's, the utter crap/cheap CMOS sensors used in camphones bear no relation whatsoever to the full frame units utilised in proper cameras.
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