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DeviLLiciouS
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Posted: 2008-08-23 05:19
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thx plankgatan for the photo but can u post some snap shot of k810i as well?? day n night shots..
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Posted: 2008-08-23 06:30
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On 2008-08-22 12:03:09, plankgatan wrote:
@DeviLLiciouS..........is this good enough




As far as I am concerned, the C902 may be an upgrade in pixel count compared to K810 but it sure is a downgrade in quality. Look at plankis photos in full size and then compare with a few examples in full size from our Esato friends:


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Too bad that the K810 looks like a Bang&Olufsen remote control

Question to those who complain about it being unnecessary to look at full size photos: why then need 3, 5 or 8 MP? Why not stick to VGA or 1 MP camphones?


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Posted: 2008-08-23 07:53
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eehh......... i have both cameras and i feel & see C902 is little better on everything. (sharpness, low light, night, color-reproduction, etc). dont get me wrong. i praise K810 very much, think its a great phone. But A200 and everything who makes C902 awesome, is just awesome

there is NO way you can get the leafs like this with a K810, (i know, ive been taking many K810 macro pics)





[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-08-23 08:28 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-23 09:47
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what leaf structure of the tomato have to do with camera? every bumpy object is looking great no matter of camera especially when light is hitting object not in front but on one side. even object with subtle bumpy surface can look very nice if light is good, like on this shot by K800



nothing unusual I would say
plankgatan
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Posted: 2008-08-23 10:34
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Tomato ? Its no tomato.and like i said i have take hundreds macro with k810 o k800 and i have never get the same result like c902. C902 is just better. You even see that on the picture you post.it dosent have the sharpness.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 10:36
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Lol, whats special about those leaves? Are you happy because they look like leaves?
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Posted: 2008-08-23 10:54
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well there does seem to be quite alot of clear detail showing on the leaves for a photo taken that distance away.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 11:18
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nobody can post comparision pics of C902 and K800 that's why I'm requesting to close this thread

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once again you're praising C902 and once again other phone must be worse. nothing new but man, we all are tired of this. nobody is saying that C902 sucks but if you're telling me that K800 cannot make sharp pictures then you lie. in fact this isn't important for me, I see two different things: your words and pictures from my K800 and you know what? I believe in my pictures, not in your anti-K800 manifest. I have K800 and I know about this phone's camera much more than you. notice that I never wrote wrong word about C902, all the time I'm only trying to defend K800 against your unreasonable attacks

you wrote that my picture of the leaf doesn't have sharpness like on your pic. my question is: how you can compare sharpness on two very different pics? didn't you noticed that my leaf is much less detailed in structure? from when details level is equal to sharpness level?

I will not answer on your next post here, I will not go into next off-topic flamewar with you
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Posted: 2008-08-23 12:44
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On 2008-08-23 10:34:00, plankgatan wrote:
Tomato ? Its no tomato.

That looks like Rosehip ("nypon" in Swedish).
Raiderski
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Posted: 2008-08-23 12:53
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yes, my fault, I focused my eyes on leafs only
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Posted: 2008-08-23 16:15
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ok let see here if we have the same thoughts ???


c902 vs k810:
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low light.............C902

night pics...........C902

daylight.............. both phones produce similar quality. good colors & sharpness. (but C902 have little better details, and K810 have little less noise)

indoor.............C902. (remember when i first bought my k800 (and then later K810) long time ago. the indoor pictures didnt blow me away directley. C902 is more simple to get better quality with)

flash pics.......... K810 (Xenon)



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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-08-23 15:19 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-23 17:03
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The c902 low-light & night pics arent better than the k800i's, if anything the k800i is better because the sensor has less megapixels loaded on to it so it's less noisey anyway and doesn't need as much post-processing so the pics are more deatailed.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 18:03
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?????? (sometimes i wonder how you see things man...)

i havnt seen many k810-Night pictures (WITH ORIGINAL CAM DRIVER) who have the same quality as C902. thats for sure.........

C902 have a larger sensor who handle more light better, (and this time a very good, balanced cam-software who runs the hardware). except that C902 sensor can handle more light, it also use a higher ISO-number then K810, which make the difference in night & low light shoots.

just a example what im talking about:
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-08-23 17:32 ]
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The c902 isn't using a bigger sensor, theres no way a bigger sensor would even fit in it, it's no better at handling light than the k800 and the k800 uses higher iso's on auto mode it's range is 80-640 the c902 is 64-??? 320 i think, my s700 is 160-4000.
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Posted: 2008-08-23 20:17
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ehh... I'm sick when watching at pics described as 'low light' which are far from being low light. let me explain people

look at pic above - nice pic isn't?
Plank used label 'low light' for it
this pic is quite dark, so can we call it 'low light'? let's find out...
what we can find in EXIF data?
exposure time = 1/1000s, ISO = 64

ouch! you probably guess what this mean? do you want to know how much light have this scene and how much light was on sensor? this much:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/virgilefontaine/2778191086/meta/

surprised? well, you shouldn't be because you have sunlight in front of the camera. what do you think about next pic?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/virgilefontaine/2778192686/meta/

is this low-light? no it's not right? what do you see in exposure time? 1/160s so this is still ~6x longer exposure time than on Plank's pic (1/1000s) and this means that pic with horse have less light (but it's not low-light!) than Plank's pic ('low-light'). funny isn't?

conclusion:
if picture is dark this doesn't mean that it is low-light
Plank's pic is far away from low-light

1. EXIF will tell you everything
2. I just wanted to explain this and nothing more (not to be rude)

EDIT:
K800, ISO 80, exposure time (1/100s) 10x longer (a lot less light) than on Plank's pic


anything amazing? pfff...

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