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Posted: 2008-07-26 14:28
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I can't bring myself to buying any Samsung/LG as I can't stand them, I find them crappy and lacking, but this phone is really impressive. It outdoes any phone on the market which is simply stunning! The best "all-in-one" phone (N95) has been officially dethroned, heck even the N96 is looking ill equipped when you look at this phone.

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Posted: 2008-07-26 14:37
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On 2008-07-26 11:31:55, mib1800 wrote:
I really pity SE for not having a competitive smartphone platform for its high end phone. S60 powered i8510 (without even really trying) already left the C905 behind in capability.



You are right but not absolutely don't tell me imaging wise 8510 will left C905 behind the lack of proper still camera flash is an obvious drawback for innov8

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Posted: 2008-07-26 15:19
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Are you kidding? this phone will kick the living $hit out of C905 (looking at the technology).

"+": Blink shutter, 1cm macro, WDR, DivX @ 120fps and VGA @ 30fps (with 120 fps you can "slow down time"), 3.5mm jack, sound chip with 3D sound, 3d accelerator, 16GB storage + opportunity to extend to 32!!! with SDcard (not like SE.. buy theyr M2 which is very expensive compared to microSD), TV out.. etc.

" - ": no xenon flash, and i like the SE interface and menus...

waiting for sample shots.


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Posted: 2008-07-26 15:30
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1 cm macro?? Do we need it?? Blink and smile shutter?? Some people have weird frowns..
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Posted: 2008-07-26 15:43
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well it wouldn't hurt if you had it, right? sometimes i see a cool insect that is too small to focus on it, so 1cm macro would be a good thing.
And smile and blink shutters are great for fun. Instead of self timer you decide when to take the picture. c905 vs INNOV8.. the winner will have me as owner nokia's turn to release 8mp phone.

This little samsung is best all-in-one phone on market. Music+Camera IN ONE not like SE: camera in C (K) and music in W phones. when will you learn SE??
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Posted: 2008-07-26 15:55
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As an ''all-in-one'' device the Samsung wins hands down, as a camera phone I think the C905 may win this one. One thing we shouldn't forget is that Samsung is still to announce its real competitor to the C905 then we could start comparing. And then there's the current champions of imaging, Nokia, who I think pose the biggest challenge.

The best thing to do of course is to wait until all competing products are released.
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Posted: 2008-07-26 16:00
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On 2008-07-26 15:19:47, norbi_nw wrote:
Are you kidding? this phone will kick the living $hit out of C905 (looking at the technology).

"+": Blink shutter, 1cm macro, WDR, DivX @ 120fps and VGA @ 30fps (with 120 fps you can "slow down time"), 3.5mm jack, sound chip with 3D sound, 3d accelerator, 16GB storage + opportunity to extend to 32!!! with SDcard (not like SE.. buy theyr M2 which is very expensive compared to microSD), TV out.. etc.

" - ": no xenon flash, and i like the SE interface and menus...

waiting for sample shots.


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Fair enough but FYI, SE has it's own SmartContrast which works similarly with Samsung's WDR, while the 3.5mm jack is really usefull for audiophiles it lacks proprieraty port for native accessory use(that usb port is only useful for PC-syncing afaik) compared to the all-in-one FastPort not to mention that samsung does not offer extensive range of accessories compared to SE's extensive efforts on that side. I myself won't take the risk of choosing a phone with the in built 3.5mm jack and common usb port but loosing the opportunity to dress my phone with wide array of accessories. what accessory can we connect with that in-phone usb? can we connect high-quality earphones with built-in play-pause/volume button(which are very handy) only with a 3.5mm jack?
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Posted: 2008-07-26 16:09
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doesnt matter what samsung/lg/nokia bring out cos i like sony ericsson camera phones(excellent u.i,custom themes,affordable).
i've owned/still own t610,k700,s700,k750,k800 and now k850 and nothing,no matter the specs,will make me change to a rival brand.
so you could say i'm looking foward to the launch of the c905

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Posted: 2008-07-26 16:19
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well you can connect high quality earphones to 3.5mm jack, but you are right, not with play pause buttons. But 3.5 is standard, and with "C" phones u get $hitty earphones, and you have to throw out an extra 50euros to buy those HPM-77 or 88 or even more + i dont know if those high spec earphones have play pause etc buttons. I wouldn't jump into this untill both phones are released and tested. ~ 3 more months and we will declare our winner.
Lets not forget the extra CPU power samsung has to offer. Still i wouldn't mind these features in a SE. Maybe in 2009
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Posted: 2008-07-26 16:25
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one word is for sure, C905 takes very decent pics for a camera phone, the issues we used to see in the ill-fated K850(particularly the purple fringing and xenon flash burning out macro pictures) camera were now fixed, it doesn't matter for me whether nokia or samsung will beat it in specs or trumph it a little in camera quality for as long as we can take superb pics with C905. since C905 and innov8 uses the same camera module, the only thing i think that will make innov8 better than C905 or vice versa was the post processing applied.
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Posted: 2008-07-26 17:05
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i heard that it's only a rumour that these 2 phones use same module...
And i also use phones for multimedia.. i watch movies on it. Do you think c905 can support 600kbps video +192kbps audio? Also need a sound chip like the one samsung uses..
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Posted: 2008-07-26 20:56
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i'll be very happy if ther is no flashburn in the c905s pics,its the only thing that bugs me with the k850.
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Posted: 2008-07-27 05:32
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The C905 expected retail price is 500 euros and the innov8 is 780 euros. Difference of 300 euros. Now choose for yourself.
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Posted: 2008-07-27 10:50
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clearly this has better specs. But because it has a greater spec list, does it mean its a better phone than the c905? No!

the better phone is the one which ever suits the buyer more.
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Posted: 2008-07-28 08:08
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Can't deside if i'll buy this or the i900. Proberbly the one to hit the market first
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