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Sony Ericsson Issues Profit Warning(Updated) |
tranced
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Sony Ericsson has issued a warning that its net sales and net income before taxes in the second quarter of 2008 continue to be negatively affected by moderating demand of mid-to-high end mobile phones, in combination with a delay of new products shipped during the quarter.
Although final results may differ, Sony Ericsson plans to ship approximately 24 million phones during the second quarter of 2008 with an estimated ASP (Average Selling Price) of EUR115. That compares to shipements of 22.3 million handsets in the first quarter, with an ASP of EUR121.
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totalgsm
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Possibly even recession could affect this lol.
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mario2004
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Bad management is a even bigger probability  Why Nokia and Samsung go up while Motorola and Sorryericsson go down?
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On 2008-06-27 19:14:22, mario2004 wrote:
Bad management is a even bigger probability Why Nokia and Samsung go up while Motorola and Sorryericsson go down?
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Samsung and Motorola have huge markets in the US, i have only lived here in the US for 3 years (from the uk originally) but its amazing what little choice American consumers have, youd be suprised at how many ppl here still walk round with the Motorola Rzr, i think SE need to really try and get into the US market better, with more advertising over here.
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On 2008-06-27 19:27:03, DonJuan wrote:
Samsung and Motorola have huge markets in the US, i have only lived here in the US for 3 years (from the uk originally) but its amazing what little choice American consumers have, youd be suprised at how many ppl here still walk round with the Motorola Rzr, i think SE need to really try and get into the US market better, with more advertising over here.
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DonJuan
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thats why i stick to t mobile and get my phones online, that way im not so restricted
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What's new? The downward spiral continues. Two and a half years of treating its customers like they were dumb is now really paying off. Same old rehashed products thinking they could get away with it forever never will work.
During the first quarter SE said it was the decline in demand in the high end segment of the market for its profit decline while Nokia sold the high end N95 in bucketloads, Samsung did extremely well in its sales too.
It really is beginning to look like another Motorola saga this.
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Both PALM and RIM posted similar results so I still think its a lull. Don't be throwing away your SE chargers just yet. . . :)
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@goldenfae
But with Rim it's due to a lot if not all users holding off for the far better specified Bold and then there touchscreen device that are coming soon. As the Bold is the first Rim device to offer 3G/HSDPA, WiFi, GPS with a greatly improved screen and great Multimedia. Their first touchscreen should have similar spec's but of course no buttons, i would be very surprised if Rim's market share doesn't rise quite significantly by the end of the year and rise further next year.
SE need some serious changes to stop dropping even further behind the competition.
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I say smartphones arn't SE strongpoints. Pity. However there's still lots they're capable of. They've been .caught sleeping.IMO (posting with this P990 is killing me)
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@Dogman What I find interesting in their statement is to blame the drop in hi-end devices (which I belive is correct) The thing is,which devices exactly are they talking about? To call the p-series 'hi-end' by 2008 standards,is a insult to humanity . I bet Sagem (SE's partner) will overtake them before 2010 if no management changes in thinking occure. Alcatel is even closer thou. And Alcatel's 'hi-end' line up althou suffered just as much,looks stronger
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Well at least they'll still break even. I hope the new phones announced recently are available soon to boost thier sales. A drop in ASP is to be expected I guess as prices get discounted; NZ prices have dropped between 20 and 33% on models only released in February - an unprecedented move.
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Dogmann
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Hi all,
Good points Mario & GoldenFace that currently IMO and it seems many others agree on SE really don't have any high end offerings especially not smart phones.
I would also imagine as most of us are Mobile device addicts or fans of varying degrees we realise that the growth market in mobiles is indeed coming from smart phones. As they move further away from being just Business tools and develop into Multimedia devices. Which is why a lack of offerings in this segment will hurt the most IMO as more and more users demand more from their devices.
If you don't offer these type of devices users will just go elsewhere to get them.
I remember on this forum early 2007 the claims that this was going to be SE's year and that they would sell 200 million devices and be number 2 by year end and we all know what happened next.
SE really need to return to what made them great, with innovative and class leading features and great build quality and firmware along with great customer support.
The changes in these areas is what has driven people away and not just in this or other forums but in the whole market place. Since SE peaked and the changes in direction so has there user numbers and it's all been down. Doing nothing is not an option they fired Miles Flint and now Mr K is in charge but there really hasn't been any real differences seen. Either they return to what made them great or continue to fail is the reality.
I know SE fans are one of the most loyal but when even they start to go elsewhere the writing is on the wall. I know SE fans believe that SE has the best UI and design and quality but obviously they are not the majority otherwise SE would still be 3rd and a challenging for 2nd instead of now being 5th. Something has to change and change before it's to late and one or two models really isn't going to be enough to do it either.
It appears to all intents and purposes we have lost UIQ lets hope we don't lose SE to.
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Considering SE's attitudes to its loyal fans even fifth position is too good - it should be tenth I believe. SE is champion of bugware – cannot or unwilling to remove the bugs even within lifetime of its premiere products. Unfortunately there are still a lot of SE fans like me who after cursing SE and promising not to buy SE phones again comes back to SE knowing that there is 100% chance that the new phone is not different form the phones abandoned by SE prematurely. |
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