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MikLSP
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Posted: 2008-06-13 12:41
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Oh wow, what a game! If you don't have this yet, go and buy it

If you have got it what do you think? As you're about to find out, I'm rather impressed

It looks fantastic and the sound is even better. You will be needing an HDTV and 5.1 surround to take full advantage. The depth of gameplay is ridiculous, there is so much attention to detail here!

The intro looks superb and before you can think that it is pre-rendered and the game will be worse, your HUD appears and you basically play an interactive intro while the credits continue. The transition from cutscene to gameplay is truely seemless and basically consists of the HUD reappearing and the camera angle changing!

The AI are also very clever and can even detect you by smell if you're smoking of have been in a nasty environment recently. They also question your box/drum disguises if you use it somewhere out of context "huh, a box..what's that doing here?" and lift it off you...you're not entirely safe in lockers either as they will check them IF they suspect you're in there. AI characters also change their behaviour towards you depending on your playing actions e.g. killing some PMC soldiers will make the Militia friendlier.

There is a huge array of weapons and items already and I'm very early on in the game. Each item has a weight and this should be taken into account when loading Snake up with gear, if he carries over 70kg he will be unconfortable and lose psyche. The iPod is pretty cool in Snakes gadgets as you can use it to play alternate soundtracks and even downloaded podcasts, it also improves Snakes psyche to keep him happy. Other items include cigarettes which increase psyche but with fairly drastic health consequences and Playboy magazines which can both cheer up Snake and distract an enemy.

You really have to watch your step when sneaking as there is a lot of litter and cans etc. lying around which you can accidentally kick and make a noise. You can of course deliberately make noises to distract guards by tapping on any surface or by throwing empty gun magazines allowing you to sneak round are draw the man away from his allies so you can attack him safely.
CQC is nice though I recommend only holding the knife, holding a gun reduces your CQC moves significantly. However guns do have an added advantage allowing you to perform a hold up when approaching from behind. In this case the enemy will drop their weapon and put their hands in the air, you can then search them for additional items and pressing / at the right time grabs the guys crotch for that extra bit of pursuasion

This game really has more to it than I can describe, even the second mission briefing is brilliant as you can switch around between three screens showing the briefing, CCTV and the Mk.II's camera. All three can be viewed in split screen or any can be made full screen. You can also drive the Mk.II around the scene to collect additional itmes.

The level of detail and depth have really stood out and I would say that so far this is the best produced game I have ever come across!

Mik

PS- There's an extensive review on IGN where they actually gave it 10/10 -=>click<=-

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Posted: 2008-06-13 13:13
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Lol yeah I've been playing it for the last few days and its amazing. I have to agree with you on everything you've said there!

Here is a Metal Gear Solid discussion, but you've just made a much better one so I think we should talk about it here.
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Posted: 2008-06-13 15:36
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Yes, I saw that but it seemed to be a topic on the game series in general rather than the newest installment

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Posted: 2008-06-14 03:19
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True, there doesn't seem to be many people into it here anyway.

I couldn't stop playing it last night. I'm a bit of my way into what I think is the first section, Act 2. I think I'm running and gunning too much though. Keep getting caught...
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Posted: 2008-06-14 08:47
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By any chance is the voice in Japanese and subs in english? I cant hack games like that. Shame its not coming to the xbox360
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Posted: 2008-06-14 11:21
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i was in the online beta for this and thought it was pretty good.

i will get the game eventually as i liked the beta but i kept getting killed as im not too good at games like MGS

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Posted: 2008-06-14 12:09
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One more perfect 10...this time from Gamespot
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Posted: 2008-06-14 12:52
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On 2008-06-14 08:47:18, themarques wrote:
By any chance is the voice in Japanese and subs in english? I cant hack games like that. Shame its not coming to the xbox360



No no, its all English dude, and probably some of the best voice acting I've ever heard in a game. Though Snake's voice does sound a bit forced at times. But I imagine it would be hard to keep up a raspy voice like his for a long time.

Interesting that the review scores vary a lot more for this game than GTA (though they are still all high). I guess this is a hard game to judge, being a bit of a fan service and all. Though I'm loving it and I haven't played it much before.
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Posted: 2008-06-14 15:08
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Snakes voice is supposed to sound like that to reflect Snakes aging body.

@ themarques

it's not a shame at all, this game would be ruined on the 360 due to the amount of stuff that would have to be removed. The 360 can't even handle Quake Wars, look at the comparison videos...they even had to remove in-vehicle views on that game

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Posted: 2008-06-14 15:26
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Yeah and on gamespot's review with Hideo Kojima (the game creator), he actually says that it would be impossible to have done some of the things in the game on the 360. He does mention though, that he has a challenge of working out how to make these things happen using different techniques for other platforms, which does suggest that it may come out on the 360 at some stage.

But they'd have to remove the little bits of the game that mention the PS3. Eg:
*MINOR JOKE SPOILERS FOLLOW*

The joke where Otacon says Snake has to change to disc 2, then realises the PS3 takes dual-layer discs, so it doesn't need to be changed!
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Posted: 2008-06-14 18:46
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Bought it today and i agree 100%...
But what an amazing game!!!
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Posted: 2008-06-15 14:04
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If you're going to buy MGS4 I hope you like cutscenes, there's a LOT of them and they can be long!
At one point yesterday I had a cutscene followed by Mission Briefing and then another cutscene which reulted in no actual gameplay for 45 minutes!
The briefing is interactive though and the scenes are all interesting enough to make it pass quickly and you can pause themat any time. Of course if they really aren't your thing and want to ignorew the story you can skip them all even on your first play through.

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Posted: 2008-06-15 14:28
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definately gonna wait until ive completed GTA4 before I get this as i would want to watch all the cut scenes as i do with GTA4.

saying that, might be an idea for me to start playing it again and hold of from trying to fully prestige up on COD4!
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Posted: 2008-06-16 09:49
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yeh i have had this since launch.... tis an amazin game!!!!

first metal gear i av played that i have sat all the way through the cut scenes without skipping them!!!!

upto act 2 now and only killed about 5 ppl.... love stealth games!

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Posted: 2008-06-16 16:51
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I think there is an award for completing the game with zero kills though that will be quite a challenge I reckon!

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