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tranced Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: Santo Domingo, wonDeRland PM	Posted: 2008-05-20 22:34 Nokia is preparing a Linux-based mobile phones to the market. The company's Financial Rick Simonson said on Monday, JP Morgan Chase seminar in Boston that "definitely moving in that direction." Simonson did not take a position on the Linux version will be used. -- I will leave the decision making technology, he said. He did not take a position on it, the source of the Nokia Linux-based Google launched by Android-architecture projects. Simonsonin According to the use of Linux will be extremely important. The company already sells a Linux-based Internet access devices, such as the Nokia 800 and 810 handheld PCs. Linux-income mobile phones, however, be preceded by the new wholesale Symbian Series 60-based Nokia and mobile phones. Nokia is a major owner of Symbian. Symbian has recently reduced its ohjelmistolisenssiens� prices. Google intends to distribute its own Android ships for free. translated version = http://translate.google.com/t[....]2054&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=fi&tl=en I jay0726 \| (+3, 0) \| Clara, Evita, Mimmi & Victoria \| My Pics \| Do your job!

Brightspark Joined: Aug 19, 2007 Posts: 326 From: UK PM	Posted: 2008-05-20 23:02 about time too! they've got all this history and experience in linux and open source, so it would be illogical(and a shame) if they restricted it to their internet tablets.
xpx Joined: May 29, 2004 Posts: 79 From: canada PM	Posted: 2008-05-20 23:58 IF nokia ported s60 to linux then the theory of linux being number 1 in mobile will become a reality not to mention LIMO and ADROID is in the making. eat my short!
Drz Daddy Joined: Apr 25, 2007 Posts: 46 From: Santiago, D.R. PM, WWW	Posted: 2008-05-21 02:47 ---------- [ This Message was edited by: Drz Daddy on 2008-05-22 18:28 ]
Supa_Fly Joined: Apr 16, 2002 Posts: > 500 From: Toronto, Ontario PM, WWW	Posted: 2008-05-21 05:49 On 2008-05-21 02:47:47, Drz Daddy wrote: this notice sound really good!!, i want see linux on a cell phone... all free ,all open and all easy to use.. Free, Open, Easy to use?? 1> NOT FREE - only the SOURCE code is free to grab, play with, but also Nokia MUST distribute it to the OPEN source - competition will never be the same again; kiss goodbye to great uniqueness. Its all going to be in the hardware and in Themes. 2> Open - yup even to tweak. I still have yet to understand how HTC, Motorola, Samsung and others plan to support modified filesystems by end users Android phones when support is needed. Will Google front that cost - OS Firmware upgrades? 3> Easy to use? Are you NUTS! Linux on the desktop just recently come of age where the average end user (not power user, just a user) can install apps (remember before YUM?) uninstall and modify themes. However I STILL find it arcane to locate sofware that I wish to use, EVEN with Ubuntu 8.04 - its looking better, but still got a long way to go to be on par with WinXP or Mac. Andriod, the Linux OS for phones thats getting all the hype has the most HORRIBLE application menu layout! Destroys the screen real-estate, in my opinion. We'll see just how easy linux is to the end user, Linux is still made for geeks by geeks.
Brightspark Joined: Aug 19, 2007 Posts: 326 From: UK PM	Posted: 2008-05-21 12:31 On 2008-05-21 05:49:03, Prom1 wrote: On 2008-05-21 02:47:47, Drz Daddy wrote: this notice sound really good!!, i want see linux on a cell phone... all free ,all open and all easy to use.. 3> Easy to use? Are you NUTS! Linux on the desktop just recently come of age where the average end user (not power user, just a user) can install apps (remember before YUM?) uninstall and modify themes. However I STILL find it arcane to locate sofware that I wish to use, EVEN with Ubuntu 8.04 - its looking better, but still got a long way to go to be on par with WinXP or Mac. We'll see just how easy linux is to the end user, Linux is still made for geeks by geeks. that doesn't say much for you if OAP's and 5 year old kids can find it easy to use. i mean, how difficult must it be to follow these steps: -fire up application called 'add/remove software' -type in search bar for software you want to find or simply scroll down the list. it's even got the software listed under the various headings such as 'games', 'internet', 'programming', etc. -click 'install'. i suppose fiddling about in the windows registry for hours/days to get applications to run and getting rid of trojans/viruses/worms is just a simple task for the average user, isn't it? i think not! people are moving to linux from windows because they want something thats much easier and less tiresome to use. as for the mac, apple suck. i'm never going to buy any apple product and be forced into their 'you can choose any company you like as long as it's apple' philosophy. i wonder how well OSX may work if apple weren't so anally retentive with their need to control everything. [ This Message was edited by: Brightspark on 2008-05-21 11:42 ]
AbuBasim Joined: Nov 04, 2005 Posts: > 500 PM	Posted: 2008-05-21 19:33 On 2008-05-21 02:47:47, Drz Daddy wrote: this notice sound really good!!, i want see linux on a cell phone... all free ,all open and all easy to use.. Free? As in speech I assume. So they have to publish their source code? Will they also publish the source for whatever GUI they would select? Maybe they would port the S60 UI but don't expect any more than what they provide free with the current Symbian-based S60 SDK. And easy to use? The kernel has nothing to do with the GUI.
Supa_Fly Joined: Apr 16, 2002 Posts: > 500 From: Toronto, Ontario PM, WWW	Posted: 2008-05-22 15:13 @Brightspark, You must know that not ALL linux programs install as expected, neither does Windows (which I'm VERY familiar with), or even OS X. OS X is a very successful OS - Apple is just as anal as the FREE Linux app community or Windows just in many different ways & views. They all HAVE TO be in order for any of those platforms to be successful. Apple makes GREAT products & software and for you to not realize just how important they are to the software or computing industry; I'd say your blind to history & current events. Ever wonder how Linux got a persist taskbar?? Menu's seem to be VERY simular. When patching applications on Linux desktop I feel like I did when I first tried learning to TS WinRegistry! Internal & External drive nomenclature is very arcane to the average user. Running an app seems simple, but simple things like launching a game the first time (ones shipped with Ubuntu for install) doesn't even give me a menu or instructions for 1st launch the game already started, lol. Easy to use the first time for simplistic takes, setup & send/receive email, surf internet, install plugins for browser. Now try to install a plugin for Divx I did TWO that the OS found FOR me and although both installed, neither worked even after a reboot. The codec is correct as it plays in Windows, but not in Ubuntu Linux on the same PC holding the sourced content. My worry of Linux on the smartphone from what I've seen thus far ... - Customization will be FULLY allowed, however if its done to the point the user cannot restore original settings or uninstall several seperate componenets, then how is THIS going to be supported. - I have a feeling that all the varying manufacturers, will have too much seperation of the same OS when its related via a GUI, users may have a hard time switching from device to device from different Manufacturers using the same platform OS. * S60 whether on Nokia or Samsung or LG is VERY similar. Same with UIQ (Z8/Z10 differing from P1i or P990/P910/P900). I'd say the same for MotoMAGX by Motorola (Linux) through their various phones. Improvements have been made yet currently no apps are written natively for Linux; but rather for Java. PS please carefully read my posts before quoting as I've already said installing apps on Linux destop is simple - yet NOT for the varying range of apps that a wide range of users WISH to use. Not ALL apps on ANY platform , ALWAYS installs simply and just works there ARE problems where tweaking is necessary.
himlims_nl Joined: Apr 06, 2004 Posts: > 500 PM	Posted: 2008-05-22 15:50 the pentablet's of nokia are already based on a slim linux system.
Brightspark Joined: Aug 19, 2007 Posts: 326 From: UK PM	Posted: 2008-05-22 20:00 On 2008-05-22 15:13:38, Prom1 wrote: @Brightspark, Apple makes GREAT products & software and for you to not realize just how important they are to the software or computing industry; I'd say your blind to history & current events. Ever wonder how Linux got a persist taskbar?? Menu's seem to be VERY simular. i suppose it all came from apple, eh? if you can name anything innovative, anything at all, that originally came from apple and was subsequently used for other OSs, i will eat my hat. luckily, there's no chance of that ever happening. contrastingly, there are lots of things which apple stole from linux. [ This Message was edited by: Brightspark on 2008-05-22 19:05 ]
jcwhite_uk Joined: Feb 18, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: Dorset, UK Phone:Xperia Z1 PM, WWW	Posted: 2008-05-22 21:29 And now the climb down, ish: Despite reports to the contrary, Nokia is not embracing Linux as a platform for its mobile phones. The Finnish giant insists that comments reported by Reuters and others were quoted out of context and that nothing has changed. Speculation started when comments from Rick Simonson, Nokia's Financial Director, that the mobile phone giant was "well on the way" towards using Linux on mobile phones, and prompted speculation about a tie-up with Google's Android platform. Except, says Nokia, it has no such plan. The confusion comes from the definition of a mobile phone, and what constitutes a phone handset. Nokia already uses Linux on its internet tablet class of devices, exemplified by the Nokia N810, and is planning to expand that class into more feature-rich devices. The N810 already features VoIP, including a Skype client, but so far those have only been usable when logged on to a Wi-Fi hotspot. But in the US Nokia has announced and demonstrated a version of the N810 with WiMAX support, which will give it the always-on connectivity that traditionally defines a mobile phone. So here is a handset, from Nokia, which can make and receive calls as long as it remains within a WiMAX network which is intended to be ubiquitous, eventually. So can one say Nokia are planning to release mobile phones based on Linux? This kind of confusion is only going to get worse, as more classes of device come into existence, and more of them feature constant connectivity - the only conclusion one can draw from this is that Nokia doesn't think Symbian is suitable for internet tablet devices Source Checkout my photos at My Website "Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the world together."
Brightspark Joined: Aug 19, 2007 Posts: 326 From: UK PM	Posted: 2008-05-22 22:08 yeah, and they said exactly the same about the nokia 6230i. you can read about it here where nokia (allegedly) said this: Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 04:03:10 +0300 (EET DST) From: custservice@nokia.com Add to Address Book Subject: Nokia - Lim Kuan Ming [THREAD ID:1-1AQWY] [T200407070072S010Z13729] To: CC: Dear Mr. Lim, Thank you for your e-mail. Please be advised, for further clarification of the previous email kindly note at present there are no plans to release a Nokia 6230i. Please refer to the weblink below for detailed info on the Nokia 6230: http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,47665,00.html For further assistance, please contact the Nokia Malaysia Careline between the hours of 08:30 - 00:00. The helpdesk is operational seven days per week, 365 days per year. You can contact our Customer Service Professionals on either: Malaysia Careline number : 1 300 88 1600 Malaysia Fax number : 603 2163 8333 Universal International number : +800 888 NOKIA (66542) Thank you for your continuing support. Best Regards Aisalli J Ayub Nokia Malaysia Careline http://forum2.mobile-review.c[....]hread.php?t=10636&page=3&pp=40 [ This Message was edited by: Brightspark on 2008-05-22 21:09 ]

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