Esato

Forum > General discussions > Other manufacturers > Why do you prefer Brand X to SE?

12  Next
Author Why do you prefer Brand X to SE?
xert
W800
Joined: Jun 05, 2004
Posts: 16
PM
Posted: 2008-04-10 19:56
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I am sure that there are many users who have owned or, at least, have thought to buy a SE phone - BUT for some reason, they don't do that anymore.

I am interested in reasons for abandoning SE and choosing another brand.

Personally, I have always owned only Nokia phones. Last summer when buying a new phone, SE W880 was an alternative - but in the end, it lost to Nokia E65.

Why? I really hate SE charger which reminds the horrible Nokia Pop-Port connection. (Too loose etc...)

I can promise to buy a SE phone next time IF they abandon that horrible charger!
kyle_274
X1 Silver
Joined: Apr 19, 2007
Posts: 125
From: south africa
PM
Posted: 2008-04-10 20:31
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
thats the same season why im abandoning SE, and cause they arent they dont use DSP chips to improve sound quality, and because they dont use 3,5mm jacks, and cause they dont use stereo speakers (well they didnt, seems like they might be changing there ways)
Lifes journey is not to arrive at the grave in a well preserved body, but to rather skid thru sideways shouting, HELL YEAH! THAT WAS A HELL OF A RIDE!
BobaFett
R520 copper
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
PM, WWW
Posted: 2008-04-10 20:49
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
imo nokia has far better support, more applications, easier to use ( symbian vs uiq ) and do rules in the smartfone area
Aquila non capit muscas - /// 4ever!

/// Ericsson Forum
Red_Rach
K800 Black
Joined: Jan 20, 2004
Posts: 424
From: Manchester, UK
PM
Posted: 2008-04-10 21:33
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
For me I don;t like the fact that walkman and camera phones are seperated. I don't think Java is a good enough platform anymore, it's time SE started using UIQ more and basically I think Nokia are more innovative at the moment. I really like SE but their phones don't do anything for me at the moment.
T68i - T610i - K700i - 6230i- D600 - W800i - K800i - N95 - KU990
nicv27
HTC One
Joined: Oct 15, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: kent
PM
Posted: 2008-04-10 21:43
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
although i have had various se phones in the past The reason i bought my current nokia is because there was nothing better on the high street at the time
Samsung Galaxy S3 White iPad 2 32gb 3G +16/-0 Twitter.nicv27
bearcub24
W890 Brown
Joined: Aug 11, 2006
Posts: 227
PM
Posted: 2008-04-10 21:52
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Used both manufacturers phones for years and had few problems, but got my fingers burnt (not literally ) with the SE K850i and so opted for Nokia E51 as a stopgap which has proved reliable and efficient (but maybe a little dull in comparison to the SE K850i). My wifes SE W880i has proved to be reliable so I might be tempted by the W890i.
QVGA
Nokia Lumia 1020
Joined: May 23, 2006
Posts: > 500
From: Pakistan
PM, WWW
Posted: 2008-04-10 22:29
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
SE doesnt have any cheap smartphones in their line up and i need smartphones.
voda_jon
S500 Green
Joined: Nov 28, 2004
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2008-04-10 23:32
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
finally chose to settle with a blackberry as at the moment (fingers crossed) everything just works and it works well....

I dont mind for big features, i have a stand alone camera (as i am a freelance photographer), i have a stereo and mp3 player i can take with me on journies and finally have a computer for full internet access.... not all mobile but never the less all do their jobs great with no problems!!!!

BB on the other hand works, has great battery life, great screen which is readable even in very bright sunshine! and finally a keypad i can type on properly without gettin thumb strain lol

SE just seem to be laggin a bit on new features and being inovative like they used to be!

And Nokia are doing well they jus need to sort out their bug finding before a release so u dont have to wait for updates straight away lol.

J.
vladn02
K800 Black
Joined: Sep 17, 2007
Posts: 259
From: Ukraine
PM
Posted: 2008-04-10 23:49
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post

On 2008-04-10 20:49:03, BobaFett wrote:
imo nokia has far better support, more applications, easier to use ( symbian vs uiq ) and do rules in the smartfone area




Absolutely agree with you on that, I've had my N82 for a week now and way way more impressed with not only the phone but the software available and the features that Nokia make available, some of the little things that actually count lol, I'd recommend getting a Nokia.

Don't get me wrong I'm still a SE fan and an owner of K800i and K850i but i put those aside and switched full time to N82
soane28
K800 Black
Joined: Jun 12, 2006
Posts: 401
From: NZ
PM
Posted: 2008-04-11 00:54
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I currently own a N82 and am so happy with it. I changed from SE because they are forgetting what their customers want in their phones.

For example, i was going to go for K850. But i tryed it and got frustrated with the touch sensitive buttons (really unpractical), speed of the camera was so bad compared to K800, the camera quality was really slack, you had to hold the phone arkwidly due to the sensor being too sensitive and the flash pictures end up black and the video quality is still QVGA. Not to mention lack of TV-out for a photo centric phone.

Whats even worse is that SE have taken months upon months to even try and fix their software issues.

Now taking all this into account, why wouldnt you decide to get a nokia? Nokia know what their customers want, they also listen to them too, and provide phones that trump SEs for similar or alittle higher price.

SE havent improved their quality as a company either, whereas Nokia have. eg Nokia N82 really fixed so many issues about the N95, they added xenon flash, increased the speed of the camera so its extremly quick, N82 build quality is excellent etc. If anything, the K800 was a much better phone than the K850 IMO.


[ This Message was edited by: soane28 on 2008-04-11 00:00 ]
skblakee
Samsung Galaxy Note II
Joined: May 07, 2007
Posts: > 500
From: St.Kitts, West Indies
PM
Posted: 2008-04-11 00:54
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Guys I started a thread yesterday about having now tired out Nokia for the first and would have not if I had seen this one.

Separately though, I am now coming to realise that has less software available for their phone and even the Nokia PC suite seems to be far more better than what comes with phones. Imagine I didn't even know that a video converter came with the Nokia pc suite and on the other hand one has to hunt around for converters or pay for something that seemingly should come with such expensive phones.

Their phones are also coming in to too pricey and not holding their value.

Also,their ports are awfully silly and cumbersome. Their fastport is beyond silly and a joke.I just don't understand what is the problem in having a 3.5mm plug for music and their port for updating or just adding a simple mini USB.

Then you have their headsets which come with their expensive phones. I find that the headsets that come with the P's are insulting to the people who spend so much money with them. Then persons buy their walkmans which are less expensive but come with far better headsets. could send a bigger message than that?
Galaxy Note III with 64gb micro SD
Visit St.Kitts in the Caribbean. Beautiful little place.
iPad Air 16GB
Dups!
BlackBerry Q10
Joined: Sep 24, 2006
Posts: > 500
From: GMT +2
PM
Posted: 2008-04-11 17:03
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
@soane28
that's exactly how I feel!

Only I went with
motorola
(v8) not because of high
specs- that will be for
my next smartphone-
but because there's no
other phone out there
that's built like the v8,
absolutely solid and
amazing! I may still
come back to SE
provided the x1 is
stable. Come to think of
it, I'm more than
satisfied with my 3 year
old P910i that I still use.
That says a lot about
the 'old' Sony Ericsson.
It's not what you do or even how you do it but in what state of mind you do it: Dups! 2009
coleshill
Model not set
Joined: Feb 13, 2008
Posts: 13
PM
Posted: 2008-04-11 17:33
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I want a phone that has WiFi and a 5 megapixel camera... and the only phone out there at the moment is a N95 and N82... untill the G900 comes
Fanofmodi
C902 Red
Joined: Jan 03, 2008
Posts: 191
From: Hindustan
PM
Posted: 2008-04-11 17:56
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
So another SE haters thread, after a long time. I se these kind of threads. Keep it going guys.
makbil
P990
Joined: Oct 26, 2006
Posts: > 500
From: Istanbul
PM
Posted: 2008-04-14 01:13
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Having been first an Ericsson then SE user since 1993, the P990 will probably be my last SE phone unless SE makes drastic improvements. Here's what they need to improve:
1- Technically SE devices are behind the competition. Gone are the glory days of the P900/910 when they had cutting edge technology envied by competitors.

2- SE has serious problems with the quality and management of their technical team. This clearly reflects on all their latest phone offering, smart and otherwise.

3- SE has pissed off a lot of users by abandoning firmware support for P990/M600 within a year, probably P1 support will stop soon.

4- SE's arrogant attitude and disregard for customer opinion is unrivaled.

5- Symbian + UIQ combination and the restrictions they impose on developers make it very hard to develop useful software. Developers state that there are a lot of undocumented APIs. It's almost as if SE doesn't want any software development for UIQ3 devices.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD
Access the forum with a mobile phone via esato.mobi