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chombos1
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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:11
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in the sonyericsson developer section the W760's white paper is now released.

and in the technical details it states that the video recording is done in QVGA 30fps (also there is an option to record in QCIF siz).

ALSO:
the video recorder is stated as a KEY Feature in the white paper making that 30fps more reliable.


developer site:
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/site/global/home/p_home.jsp


and heres the picture:
((((hey this windows version i am using does not have paint - damn))))
EDIT:i snaped the screen using (alt+print screen) so [img] code does not work)

download the white paper and see for yourself!!!

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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:16
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use the [imb][/img] code
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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:17
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w760 records video in 15 fps, there are only 2 sony phones that record in 30 fps : k850 and w900, that's what I heard
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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:21
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On 2008-01-13 12:11:11, chombos1 wrote:
but the white papers is always loaded with false data.


and I think QVGA video recording @30fps is a mistake as well.
from my observations, sometimes it's better off not knowing.
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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:21
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indeed there is only 2 capable of doing this but this number can increase when another device record in 30fps QVGA.

it is not to be always 2.

if there is confirmed info on 15fps recording then the white paper is again full of false data.
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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:22
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Phone is not out yet.. who knows.. maybe 30, maybe 15 QVGA
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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:37
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They're not always loaded with mistakes. The reason why the content of the white papers change is because the phone firmwares get updated and features gets added or removed. So far, this sounds about right.
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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:41
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i hope that it is true

(i forgot to state that the mistakes is on the first release of the white paper--- but most of them gets corrected in the next revision)

if that is true then i really wanna get this phone when it is out.
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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:43
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K850 video record is not true QVGA 30fps. 30fps is only achieved if the scene is relatively static with little movement. Once there are lots of movement, the framerate drops to 15fps. Kind of cheating when SE labels K850 can do 30fps.
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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:45
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On 2008-01-13 12:43:58, mib1800 wrote:
K850 video record is not true QVGA 30fps. 30fps is only achieved if the scene is relatively static with little movement. Once there are lots of movement, the framerate drops to 15fps. Kind of cheating when SE labels K850 can do 30fps.


There's no reason for a full 30 fps video recording. That's why variable bitrates and framerates are often preferable. If there's no need for 30 fps then there's really no need for the device to capture more than 20 fps or whatever is needed.
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Posted: 2008-01-13 12:54
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W900 can capture consistant 30fps without a drop......


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On 2008-01-13 12:54:28, Aware wrote:
W900 can capture consistant 30fps without a drop......






I still really don't see any reason for a phone not to use a variable frame rate. Example; the room is completely dark and two phones are recording - one with a consistent frame rate and one with a variable. The quality is exactly the same, but the file size is noticeably smaller on the phone with the variable frame rate.
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Posted: 2008-01-13 13:03
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this is not about K850 and W900...

@mib1800
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no mate--
the problem was about the firmware (witch is now fixed) : the video starts with true 30fps and after zooming or some seconds of recording it drops to practical 15fps (but still having 30 frames per second---- each 2 frames became exactly the same----- so SE is not cheating on this one(30fps) but software problem).. it does not use variable framerate or anything else.

i can asure you that this problem no more exist on 038 firmware (i tested it)

and i was the first on this forum to notice (and heavily analyze) that


i am wondering that if this phone is a little towards gaming then it can record in 30fps using its hardware accelrated ghraphics chip--- just like K850 (30fps recording is possible on A200-- eg. K850)

there is also somthing on the white paper that states SUPPort for JP9 applications --- what is JP9 ... next version java SE is going to use in their handsets

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Posted: 2008-01-13 13:33
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On 2008-01-13 12:21:22, WhiteEye wrote:

On 2008-01-13 12:11:11, chombos1 wrote:
but the white papers is always loaded with false data.


and I think QVGA video recording @30fps is a mistake as well.


What's the reason of your "think" pal? Hope that's true.
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Posted: 2008-01-13 13:39
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then lets look forward for the first W760 review...

it is now on the white paper and possibly true... good start.


ALSO:
the video recorder is stated as a KEY Feature in the white paper making that 30fps more reliable.

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