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Any Greek's care to translate this Miraculous picture for me. |
themarques
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Ok a little History about this picture, this woman in the picture her name was Amai Chaza (Amai means mother in Shona a language used in Zimbabwe). She went to have her picture taken at a photographer in Zimbabwe but went dressed in her Roman Catholic outfit, The outfit you see in the picture is NOT the outfit she went wearing. Nor was she holding this bible that you will see in her Hands.
But I think the thing you wondering the most is what is she standing on? This woman was a very spiritual woman you could say a saint and was known to cast out evil spirits and heal many people. She was quite famous over there. This photo as you can tell is quite a few decades old, if memory serves me right somewhere between 1950's I will get the correct date.
This photo was handed down to my mother and also bears the original marking at the back (photographers those days used to use a stamp) as you can tell its been battered and bruised hence the tape and stitching.
But the words in Greek they again appeared after the photographer developed the film so to recap, she wasnt wearing that outfit, nor was there a halo around her head, there was no devil that she was stood and I doubt photoshop was around those days.
So whats your guys views on this
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NightBlade
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As far as my Greek goes, I think it means Saint [enter Catholic version of name - Haralampi here].
EDIT: Catholic version - Saint Charalampus.
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themarques
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Wow thats interesting thanks for that.
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themarques
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Thats interesting the words on the right are similar if not exact my guess that is the Charalampus, but then do the same words on the left mean saint in both pictures?
I am not catholic but is this a common pose for the pictures as they are quite similar.
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KingBooker5
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On 2007-12-01 20:46:10, NightBlade wrote:
As far as my Greek goes, I think it means Saint [enter Catholic version of name - Haralampi here].
EDIT: Catholic version - Saint Charalampus.
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Saint Charalampus- Saint Harry in English
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NightBlade
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I am pretty sure that's "Saint", as АПОΣ may be an old version of a'g'os, which means "Saint" in Greek. |
themarques
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Thats very interesting guys, so whats your views on this photo?
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Cycovision
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I don't quite understand. When she had the photo taken, was she seated for a normal portrait photo and it came out like this or did she pose in that way and the other stuff appeared?
I'm not being funny, I'm genuinely interested in this kind of stuff, as you might know from the 'post strange/scary pictures' thread 
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themarques
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I will get the full story about this from my mum when I speak to her again but my understanding was she was standing up but not posed like that.
I have just found a book which I will try and purchase in the coming days and probably paste the extracts on here. It details the life of the woman. I also found out that when this photo was taken 1961 the same year she died.
If anyone has access to this online library try could you please contact me that will be great to get this book.
Journal of Southern African Studies
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KingBooker5
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The only other possibility that it isnt her and some one else? I doubt very much Greek would be used on a Zimbabwean picture what would the purpose be, unless she was a key member of the Greek church? It may have been someone else |
themarques
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Well this woman is actualy preserved since her death till today from what I hear. With regards to Greek been in Zimbabwe alot of settlers did come down there at some point, British, Portuguese, Greek. I still am a bit confused but I will try and get that book soon and read and post the 19 pages if anyone is interested in reading up on her work.
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Cycovision
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Hmmm, it'll be interesting to find out a little more about her. I'm always more doubtful of paranormal evidence that is linked to religion in some way than I am of 'ordinary' evidence because it inevitably has more blind supporters, some of whom will tell white lies, exaggerate or omit information to conceal the true cause of the phenomena and therefore preserve the 'miracle'.
But we don't have enough evidence to decide either way at the moment so who knows? It's a fascinating story anyway...
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themarques
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On 2007-12-02 12:07:57, Cycovision wrote:
Hmmm, it'll be interesting to find out a little more about her. I'm always more doubtful of paranormal evidence that is linked to religion in some way than I am of 'ordinary' evidence because it inevitably has more blind supporters, some of whom will tell white lies, exaggerate or omit information to conceal the true cause of the phenomena and therefore preserve the 'miracle'.
But we don't have enough evidence to decide either way at the moment so who knows? It's a fascinating story anyway...
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I totally agree with you, there are situations where people lie and Jesus himself said it that there will be many false prophets so beware. I think the fact that this was also documented by a very high publishing company and author in his own right, gives this story some credibility. I will surely post on the book pdf's when it arrives.
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ceco
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It says Saint Haralambos. People by that name go by Bobby sometimes. That is my dads name. What else is funny is that I have read "Catholic" here several times. There is nothing Roman Catholic about either of these photos. Both are 100% Orthodox. In this case Greek Orthodox.
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themarques
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Thanks for clarifying that, but when I said Roman Catholic that was because tha was the church this lady used to attend, not that I said these words translated to that.
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