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humphreybc
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Posted: 2007-11-19 04:18
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Why don't SE phones have a 3.5mm headphone jack as well as a fastport?

It would make life a lot easier.

It would make a lot of sense, especially for the walkman branded phones.

[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2007-11-19 10:06 ]
razec
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Posted: 2007-11-19 04:40
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They should have done that before. but now since lots of headsets integrates a 3.5mm jack, that's now an impossible dream to be standardized in phones as it may kill the sales for other SE 3.5mm enabled accessories not included in the phone package

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Posted: 2007-11-19 05:55
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Why don't. you choose a title that let others know what you wanna talk about?
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Posted: 2007-11-19 11:06
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@humph:

i understand you very clearly, matey. but i guess this all boils down to economics you know
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Posted: 2007-11-19 12:42
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I read "it comes down to economics" here ... I read "it comes down to econonics" there ...

phones are not cheap, so why does it come down to economics all the time if a feature is missing?
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Posted: 2007-11-19 21:24
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Hi guys

Its not about "missing features" I think its more about wanting them to use thier products ONLY. I firmly believe SE (along with lots of other electronic companies i may add) want the consumer to buy into THIER brand.
To further increase revenue after the initial sale of a particular product or item, manufacturers tend to non-standardize thier accessories or in better words make it so thier accessories only work with thier product. Not all manufacturers are as bad as others at this, but unfortunately I think SE are one of the worse. Admittedly SE have been getting better lately (K850i with its two memory card formats).

An example (and remember it is only an example):
I want to upgrade my K600i to a later better model, K800i say.
Great i now have a better phone BUT my now spare SE K600i charger & SE car charger won't fit in my new k800i - solution buy a NEW spare SE k800i charger & a NEW SE car charger. more £ for SE!!!! Times this situation by thousands and you suddenly realise how profitable it is for manufacturers/companies to keep changing charging ports/memory card formats & not standardizing headphone jacks etc.

SE I believe have a VERY strong brand image (Sony in particular) which i think allows them to repeatedly get away with this trick & because people (particularly loyal brand consumers/fanboys etc) keep buying thier products regardless, they'll KEEP doing this.

I remember a few years back hearing people moan as SE utilised ANOTHER memory card format (memory stick pro-duo i believe) so soon after "standardizing" memory stick pro then there's the M2?.....or was that the micro M2?......no sorry M2 Duo........oh anyway you get the idea.

This accessory compatibility argument will run & run and probably only get worse as the integration between phone & pc gets better.
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Posted: 2007-11-19 21:47
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Personally I would like to see a 3.5mm headphone socket and a mini-usb socket.
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Posted: 2007-11-19 21:59
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Sooner or later all manufactures will have a mini or micro USB port and a 2.5 or 3.5mm audio jack. Most devices will charge through USB. Give it a year or two. This will happen for protection of the enviroment and companies will have to follow some standards. In China from 2008 there is a law that all cell phones must have a USB port for charging.
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Posted: 2007-11-19 22:40
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On 2007-11-19 04:40:27, razec wrote:
They should have done that before. but now since lots of headsets integrates a 3.5mm jack, that's now an impossible dream to be standardized in phones as it may kill the sales for other SE 3.5mm enabled accessories not included in the phone package

[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2007-11-19 03:41 ]


It's not impossible
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Posted: 2007-11-19 22:43
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they would nevr do it but if they did it be well worth it
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Posted: 2007-11-20 12:44
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i think competition will pressure to include 3.5mm jack in tgheir phones. These phones are WALKMAN, and therefore should be music centric.
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Posted: 2007-11-20 12:48
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There's an answer: N82
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Posted: 2007-11-20 13:24
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p910 got mini jack
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Posted: 2007-11-21 00:27
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I don't really know if I like the 3.5 mm standard at all.... Make something new smaller and better!!
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Posted: 2007-11-21 22:30
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it's no conspiracy. Very few phone oem's produce 3.5mm sockets for audio. You'll notice that 2.5mm sockets are more common than 3.5mm. This is because a 3.5mm socket takes up a massive amount of space inside a phone that's already packed with gadgets.

It's just a space and cost saving measure. The exact same reason smaller and smaller memory cards are being brought out. Anyone who believes it's a conspiracy by oem's to make you buy more, try and imagine a phone with a compact flash memory socket. Or even try and explain a walkman cassette player with the original 1/4in headphone socket!

As devices get smaller, so to fo the accessories, it's only natural evolution.

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