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Two years ago, walkman phones revolutionized music playing in handsets. Great sonic experience is synonymous with walkman phones.  But now, competition got stiffer. And walkman phones are lagging behind in sound quality with the advent of digital audio chips in nokia and samsung music phones.  does not put audio chip in their walkman phones so as not to compete with SONY walkmans? How do you rate Walkman sonic experience compared to those of XpressMusic and Ultra Music?
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I don't really have experience from the other two you mention, but I really like the SE Walkman 2.0 player sound. I guess it's a lot about the headphones. The "walkman plugs" fits me just perfect! |
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If we plug our beloved HPM-70 to an XpressMusic, UltraMusic and a walkman phone, which would sound best? That is where dedicated audio chips (with its sound enhancing capabilities) will be appreciated. For instance, Eldar says that the samsung i450 sonic experience is second to none in the market (due to the B&O IceMobile amplifier that creates a mind blowing sound experienc)
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Hi all,
Well as has been said many times before Walkmans seem to be little more than just branding now where as initially they really were ground breaking.
I really wouldn't say HPM-70's are quality headphones either.
What i really find sad is that originally Ericsson phones used to have B&O microphones and speakers, just how great would it be if SE Walkman phones still had B&O still instead of their rivals.
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They spent all that time,effort and money making that PS3 processor they can at least make their own sound chip or get left behind. 3.5mm jack would be
helpful also. HPM-70 aint all that good I agree Dogmann. |
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What SE lacks atm in it's music phones was a dedicated audio chip, Samsung and Nokia already integrate it in their respective music phones and they are far ahead in terms of sound quality. the new president should take that as a warning since the former president had failed to think about that  and btw, i hate how the former pres......nt diversify music phones to cam phones as before that SE is highly distinguished as innovative.
@Dogmann:
When did HPM-70 become a Headphone? i believe it's an earphone 
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@razec
Technically your are of course correct, but aren't all in ear types also called Headphones? i have never heard of anyone saying i am going to buy some new or better earphones have you?
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We'll I personally dont think its only a problem with the chipset, the interfacing software is crap too. My Motorola ROKR E6 sounded crap until few modders ported rockbox and xmms onto the ROKR and now its as good as my Smasung U600. The TyTyn2 which although does'nt have a independant chipset has good playback with the PocketMusic player.
I think they've got to re-think both the software as well as hardware bit on the SE Walkman phones if they want to challenge the opposition. |
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pure audio quality isnt what makes or breaks a "music phone". what (most) people want are good looking devices that are easy to use and dont sound "bad".
would anyone in here seriously rate the iPod as the best sounding MP3 player out there? it isnt, but its still the best selling (AFAIK) and most recognizable of all digital music players in the world.
the same could be argued in the case of music phones. providing "the best" audio quality is not necessarily the most important thing. its all about branding and "user experience", like it or not. |
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ITs not that walkman phones have gotten worse, its that they havnt improved one bit. A W800 still sounds the same as W910...
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Am using a pair of HPM 70 cuz they fit my ears perfectly...with a nokia n73 music edition...sound quality is superb! 
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On 2007-11-16 12:58:15, QVGA wrote:
ITs not that walkman phones have gotten worse, its that they havnt improved one bit. A W800 still sounds the same as W910...
so true.......
btw...does NOKIA and MOTO integrate these chipsets into their low-end music phones too?
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Moto does'nt have stand alone processors, but some of their phones use really good processors which process sound quite well such the Intel XScale and the Freescale processors.
Noki has begun using a Texas instruments processors in the lower end S40 music handsets as well, I cant remember which processor though. But I did'nt much care for the sound O/P on the 5700, was'nt as good as hte N91 nor was it as good as some other phones I've listened to, the bass cracks, its not smooth and you hear fewer instruments than the N91
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I think its high time that  live up to its name branding. The "walkman" is a legendary name. Back in the 80's, SONY created the brand which started the era when people can carry music while walking. And ive read somewhere that walkman is one of the top ten brands of all time that has a great recall among consumers (just like when you say iPod = music, Kodak = camera etc) So, if its a phone, it SHOULD and MUST have the best sonic experience among all phones. am sure agrees.
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On 2007-11-16 17:42:25, crossmatched wrote:
I think its high time that live up to its name branding. The "walkman" is a legendary name. Back in the 80's, SONY created the brand which started the era when people can carry music while walking. And ive read somewhere that walkman is one of the top ten brands of all time that has a great recall among consumers (just like when you say iPod = music, Kodak = camera etc) So, if its a phone, it SHOULD and MUST have the best sonic experience among all phones. am sure agrees.
Offtopic:
My favorite brands as a kid were: Adidas Nintendo
Mmmmm Oh happy 80's
On 2007-11-16 10:07:40, Dogmann wrote:
@razec
Technically your are of course correct, but aren't all in ear types also called Headphones? i have never heard of anyone saying i am going to buy some new or better earphones have you?
Marc
Technically he is is wrong my friend.
There are no such things as earphones. Technically speaking you must say In-ear headphones or if you want to be 100% correct ... Canalphones :]
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