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Posted: 2007-11-14 13:13
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only two handsets at this point in time manage to capture TV quality video. these are w900 (sakura) and k850 (sophia). does sophia's QVGA video the same with, or better than sakura's?

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Posted: 2007-11-14 13:43
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Sakura has a nVidia GoForce 4800 graphics accelerator as part of its hardware. I'm not sure the K850i has this but the W900i was great at playing back recorded video.

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Posted: 2007-11-14 13:50
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if sophia doesn't have the nVidia graphics accelerator, then sakura's QVGA video is better than sophia?
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Posted: 2007-11-14 14:22
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On 2007-11-14 13:50:53, crossmatched wrote:
if sophia doesn't have the nVidia graphics accelerator, then sakura's QVGA video is better than sophia?



graphics accelerator in phone is only useful in watching video or video playback..it does not affect video recording
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Posted: 2007-11-14 14:40
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i haven't compared a sakura and sophia recorded video side by side, but basing on sophia's mp4 format, i guess it has a better video recording capture. (sakura captures at 3gp format)
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Posted: 2007-11-14 14:46
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i had both phones, k850 is a little better !
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Posted: 2007-11-14 14:54
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W910 captures in QVGA, too, and so does the P990 & P1. W960 will do, too (all are doing it at 15 fps, though).
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Posted: 2007-11-14 14:56
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On 2007-11-14 13:13:45, crossmatched wrote:
only two handsets at this point in time manage to capture TV quality video. these are w900 (sakura) and k850 (sophia).

By TV quality, do you mean VideoCD quality or DVD quality?
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Posted: 2007-11-14 15:02
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Can someone compare these and decide which is better?

K850 Video Recorded:
http://d.turboupload.com/d/2146809/K850_Video_Recorded.zip.html

W900 Video Recorded:
http://d.turboupload.com/d/2146813/W900_Video_Recorded.3gp.html

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Posted: 2007-11-14 15:02
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although the K850 is stated to record at 30fps... some of them on the market will drop the frame rate to 15 after some seconds of recording.

don't know if this is fixed on the new release.

and K850 video quality is better than W900 (i know that the resolusion is the same) because of the MP4 encoding....and higher bitrate

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as i said the K850 is good in the first 10-15 secs then it drops to 15fps.
saw this bug in most of the K850 recordings i seen.

(some of them was virtually 30fps meaning that each two frames was the same..... so what you get? a choppy 15fps!!! but the player still says that it is 30fps)

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Posted: 2007-11-14 15:52
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On 2007-11-14 15:02:47, chombos1 wrote:
although the K850 is stated to record at 30fps... some of them on the market will drop the frame rate to 15 after some seconds of recording.

really? k850 drops the frame rate to 15fps after some time? then sakura is better than sophia in that case. i have tried counting the frames of a sakura recorded video and it is really 30 frames per second.
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Posted: 2007-11-14 16:01
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On 2007-11-14 14:46:36, petrutms wrote:
i had both phones, k850 is a little better !



in what terms is sophia better than sakura? i know in sound recording (of the video) sophia is better because of the mp4 format. but in terms of the "fluidity" or smoothness of the captured video, how does the w900 and k850 fare? what can you say about it?

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Posted: 2007-11-14 19:08
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since when is QVGA video TV quality? Are you planning on watching it on a 10 inch TV?
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Posted: 2007-11-15 08:28
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On 2007-11-14 13:43:19, goldenface wrote:
Sakura has a nVidia GoForce 4800 graphics accelerator as part of its hardware. I'm not sure the K850i has this but the W900i was great at playing back recorded video.





All JP-8 phones have similar hardwares, and the JP-8 only supports 15FPS QVGA videos, but K850 exceed the limtations, as i always thought, K850 probably had that graphics accelerator inbuilt but SE keeps keeping that a secret Nvidia GoForce 5100 i think, since the W900's Nvidia 4800 doesn't support up to 5mp resolution of images(only 3mp actually )
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Posted: 2007-11-15 15:18
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On 2007-11-14 19:08:19, QVGA wrote:
since when is QVGA video TV quality? Are you planning on watching it on a 10 inch TV?



its not the 320x240 resolution that makes sakura and sophia's video TV quality. it is the frame rate per seconds that their video can manage to record. 30 fps is standard TV quality.

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