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freworld4u
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Posted: 2007-10-26 17:09
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HELLO to every CELL geek here,
I have been trying to buy a phone from last 4 mths and bcoz of one or other reasons , it never became possible 4 me to do dat.

HERE IS WHAT I have been able to finalize as far as my priorities are concerned and
i think i have written almost everything i need and what i dont need
AND THEY HAVE BEEN NUMBERED priority wise
( I DONT SHOUT WITH CAPS SO DON MIND)

ofcourse i dont require almost every feature and thats why i think i shd get sm gud 1 in and around RS 30k or approx $700


SCREEN (>=2.6" ) : MUST (CAN'T Live with SMALL DISPLAY)
RESOLUTIION( 240*320 ) : MUST (MORE, will be GREAT)
COLOURS ( 16 million ) : ALMOST MUST (BUT 256K will do,IF other requirements r met out perfectly)
EDGE : MUST
3G : MUST
CAMERA (>=2MP wid FLASH) : MUST (MORE, will be GREAT)

MEMORY
INTERNAL ( >=64 MB ) : MUST (MORE, will be GREAT)
EXTERNAL ( >=512 MB ): MUST (PREFER 1GB; IF NOT,SHD be EXPANDABLE)
by
INTERNAL I MEAN phone's internal memory and not ram.
EXTERNAL I MEAN provided with the phone itself and not memory slots which can help upgrade memory


BLUETOOTH ( A2DP) : MUST
QWERTY KEYBOARD : ALMOST MUST (BUT can cut on that,IF other requirements r met out perfectly)
TOUCH SCREEN : ALMOST MUST (BUT can cut on that,IF other requirements r met out perfectly)
WI FI : ALMOST MUST (BUT can cut on that,IF other requirements r met out perfectly)

USB : +/- ( LIKE to have)
GPS : +/- ( LIKE to have)
TV OUT : +/- ( LIKE to have)
FM RADIO : +/- ( LIKE to have)


FACTORS LIKE SIZE, WEIGHT, FORM/DESIGN -- DONT MATTER.


BTW afterTHAT , regarding SE ONES , some dear ESATONIAN'S RECOMMENDED,
( I would be mentioning only d cons here as i m satisfied with other features of these)

1) K800 - Looses on first priority i.e SCREEN
- NO WIFI
- NO EDGE
- NO EXTERNAL MEMORY PROVIDED

2) P1i - one of my choice BUT
- NO EDGE ( i think out here in our part of d world dats only available
till nw and even operators r still not prOviding EDGE at ALL places
THEN WE ShD forget abt 3G DAT WAY (thou many big operators r
installing/procuring 3G equipment and waiting for spectrum realease)
(SO think smtimes dat even 3G IN MY PRIORITY SHD not be "MUST",OK LEV IT)
- SO CALLED "HALF QWERTY AND HALF TORTURE " KEY BOARD
- WIFI IS INFERIOR CLASS (802.11b), thou not a big prob.

3) P990i - one of my choice BUT
- SAME NO EGDE
- VIDEO QUALITY IS D MOST BASIC (QVGA 320x240 pixels),
Shd haveben better! (with provided 2MP CAMERA)
- WIFI IS INFERIOR CLASS (802.11b), thou not a big prob.

4) W950i - som1 advised - univercell mentions cost as 29k (quite far)
- NO WIFI (inspite of dat much)
- NO CAMERA (dats horrible in dat much)

5) K790i - Looses on first priority i.e SCREEN
- NO WIFI
- NO 3G
- NO EXTERNAL MEMORY PROVIDED

6) k810i - Looses on first priority i.e SCREEN
- NO WIFI
- NO EDGE
- NO EXTERNAL MEMORY PROVIDED

SEEING ABV "only" options from SE IN DAT RANGE,i think, dude SE FANS must elaborate -
is this what SE I KNOWN FOR?
i mean sm1 looking for a so-so phone has no options in SE dat way!

I know NOKIA neither doesnt have many but quite of them r there
like N95, N 73 (~16K), E61i (~18K), N76 (~17K).
THOU THEY ALSO r nt full featured as per requirement ,
but still N95 is said to be a good option.


AND
ANOTHER good option WHICH CAME IN MY WAY IS
HTC ONES ESP HTC TYTN and new HTC P3300
what u have to say about that? any specific problems associated with them?

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BobaFett
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Posted: 2007-10-26 17:16
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how u mean : "NO EXTERNAL MEMORY PROVIDED" at k800, k790 and k810?

all of them has got m2 support...
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Posted: 2007-10-26 17:41
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i think he means provided in the box? but k810i comes with 128mb and also on t-mobile a free 1gig card included aswell
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Posted: 2007-10-26 18:08
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welcome to esato, mate!

seems like a "dream" one for me considering all of the combination of specifications you have enumerated.

NEITHER Nokia or SE has all of those in one single unit either because of aesthetic or marketing reasons... some of your pronouncements are even debatable: just look at the posts after yours

anyway, this is exactly why the forum is here... peace.

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Posted: 2007-10-26 19:04
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@freworld4u, I did a search on GSMArena for you, check out this link for the results: PhoneFinder results

If you want to try to refine the search parameters yourself, go to www.gsmarena.com.
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freworld4u
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Posted: 2007-10-29 10:48
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On 2007-10-26 17:16:36, BobaFett wrote:
how u mean : "NO EXTERNAL MEMORY PROVIDED" at k800, k790 and k810?
all of them has got m2 support...


First, sorry for late reply as i was out of town and had probs connecting to forum.

"NO EXTERNAL MEMORY PROVIDED"
BY that i mean the same ,
i.e no memory provided along the handset.

We need to buy the memory to help it and that adds to cell phone cost as its not that cheap and
of course in the end it has a effect on total money u wanna spend on ur cellphone (as many cell manufactures provide the same with many handsets)



On 2007-10-26 17:41:00, A L 3 X wrote:
i think he means provided in the box? but k810i comes with 128mb and also on t-mobile a free 1gig card included aswell

yes.
and Thanks for correcting me that K810i.yes it has got memory (128 mb) within d box.



On 2007-10-26 18:08:42, aldrinus wrote:
welcome to esato, mate!
seems like a "dream" one for me considering all of the combination of specifications you have enumerated.


THE SAME here dude. ..

btw a frend here advised me to go for HTC TYTN.
seems a good one. (btw just ok camera )

other options NOKIA N95. (battery prob, no qwrty keyboard and no touchscreen )



so what other options do u suggest?





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Posted: 2007-10-29 11:09
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Wait for W960?
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Posted: 2007-10-29 11:50
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Tytn 2 or Eten X800 ?
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Posted: 2007-10-29 12:09
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I guess W960 covers most of your features.
Plus, it has touchscreen!
freworld4u
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Posted: 2007-10-29 16:28
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On 2007-10-29 12:09:03, NightBlade wrote:
I guess W960 covers most of your features.
Plus, it has touchscreen!


i hasnt got EDGE, thou Camera and MeMory r Great !
Forgot to mention ,, NO QWERTY KEYBOARD TOO..
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Posted: 2007-10-30 06:06
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I guess my recommendation of HTC TYTN still wins hands down for your budget and feature requirements
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Posted: 2007-10-30 06:13
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The solution is simple. wait for Nokia N98 or Sony Ericsson P3
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freworld4u
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Posted: 2007-10-30 09:39
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BTW I HAVE EDITED my BUDGET to about RS 30k or approx $700
Hope that solves some probs and NOT ADDS MORE


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freworld4u
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Posted: 2007-11-04 16:21
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WELL After so much of Reviews, Searches, References, Advise from Frendz, etc,
I m still confused with few cornered or selected phones, WHICH ARE-

1) HTC TYTN
PROS
- Meets almost all MY Requirements
Big screen (2.8")
OK Resolution,
OK EDGE (class 10)
3G,
OK CAMERA (2MP WID FLASH),
Bluetooth 2.0(with a2dp),
Qwerty Pad,
Touth screen With Appropriate sized Stylus,
Wifi 802.11g/b (latest)
&
USB (thou 1.1)

CONS
- Weak on COLOURS (JUST 65K)
- Weak on MEMORY (JUST 128 mb ROM & NO EXTERNAL)
- Some people havin Battery & Keypad probs too. (NOT CONFIRMED & maybe with old firmware or WM5 )
- ON BOARD GPS CHIP BUT REDUNDENT ( thou some hav activated that with some 10 $ spending)- doesnt matter much as

MAIN THINGs HURTING-
COLOURS & tHOSE "LIKE TO HAVE" FEATURES WHICH N95 HAS IT ALL,BUT THIS DOESNT.


******(TYTN II IS great but its abv my budget & also extra 100$ for -just ok gps,screen tilt, some memory & 1mp extra camera is not worth i think)******


2) NOKIA N95
PROS
- MEETS
BIG screen (2.6" - smaller than TYTN)
OK Resolution
GREAT COLOURS (16 M)
Good EDGE (class 32)
3G
GREAT CAMERA (5 MP WID FLASH)
Bluetooth 2.0(with a2dp),
Wifi 802.11g/b (latest)
&
USB ( 2.O)
GPS
TV OUT
FM RADIO

CONS
- Weak on MEMORY (JUST 128 mb EXTERNAL)
- HAS Battery PROBLEM ( CONFIRMED)
- NO QWERTY KEYPAD
- NO TOUCH SCREEN WITH STYLUS

MAIN THINGs HURTING-
TOUCH SCREEN & QWERTY KEYPAD & BATTERY


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Frankly,
I TRIED reviewing MANY OTHER OPTIONS DETAILED BELOW.
BUT I have been not able to Add any other good 1 in to this list goin by MY REQUIREMENTS BCOZ-


1) BUDGET PRICE ( NOT anv 700$ or RS 31k APPROX)
2) BIG SCREEN ( many other options lack this , which is my 1ST PRIORITY)
3) QWERTY KEYBOARD ( many other options lack this too, most being SMARTPHONE OPTIONS)
4) EDGE (some other options lack this)
5) 3G (some other options lack this)
6) OTHER PROBS (like firmware probs, battery, bad camera,less memory)


OTHER OPTIONS WERE-
-SE P990i ( NO ONE RECOMmended that )
-SE P1i ( half Qwerty-half irritating keypad, no EGDE)
-NOKIA N73 (small screen,not qwerty,bleak memory)
-NOKIA E61i (TOuchscreen,Bleak Memory, TOO BROAD form)
-HTC TOUCH (NO 3G, NOT QWERTY)
-HTC P3300 (NO 3G, NOT QWERTY)
-IMATE JAM (1.3MP CAMERA, NO WIFI)
-IMATE KJAM (1.3MP CAMERA, NO 3G)
-IMATE JASJAM (NO BUDGET- thou i havnt been able to find out exact price of this till now)
-IMATE JASJAR (NO BUDGET)
-HTC TYTN II ( NO BUDGET)
-BLACKBERRY'ES -- NONE HAS 3G ,till now so not reviewed ( am i correct?)

(NOTE: i have not considered " TO BE RELAESED PHONES" BCOZ,
- god knows what "PROBLEMS" they r goin to develop, whcih many develop after a new product is released
- waiting for those is mainly waste of time as these money churning BRANDS r never goin to churn out A PREFECT phone)


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Actually i think ,
THIS THREad will no just help me!
It will help a lot of people out here who are thinking of buying a smartphone or pda,
with these specs ( and these specs are the ones which most of those will cherish )
within that budget
or
THINKING of shifting from SYMBIAN TO PDA OS like windows/palm/linux(?)



NOW, what do u people have,
to ADVISE me about the smartphone or pda shd i go for?
OR ANY other option i have left?
OR ANY other option LEFT ?
OR ANY other correction for abv?


THANKING again in advance.
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Posted: 2007-11-04 16:34
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Let me just clear something for you. 128MB is the internal memory which is easily upgradeable to up to 4GB via memory card. You wont find any smartphone with ~150MB internal memory except the N95 8GB and N81 8GB. Secondly, all windows based smartphones come with 65k color screen, even some with VGA res. screens come with 65k colors so i assume the OS needs only 65k or anything over 65k is just not needed.
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