Esato

Forum > General discussions > Non mobile discussion > Does Raikkonen deserve to be F1 World Champion?

12  Next
Author Does Raikkonen deserve to be F1 World Champion?
aldrinus
K810 Blue
Joined: Jan 16, 2005
Posts: > 500
From: Philippines
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 05:07
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Hello guys, well, I'm a rabid Kimi fan even when he was still a rookie upstart at Sauber Petronas, well into McLaren, and now with Ferrari.

So, what do you think? After a couple of times of being almost a world champion, here he is at last --- a World Champion! Now Finland has two (the other being Mika Hakkinen!).

Too bad for Lewis and Fernando for 2007. Guess, luck seemed to have sided with Kimi finally. Nevertheless, Lewis was simply phenomenal and I guess, Fernando's best effort wasn't good enough this year.

Congrats Kimi!!!

_________________
... the joy that you give to others is the joy that flows back to you, and a happy heart makes a cheerful face... may our days be as lovely as our hearts.

[ This Message was edited by: aldrinus on 2007-10-22 04:07 ]
thami
P910
Joined: Feb 08, 2005
Posts: 169
From: UK
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 05:24
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I didnt get to watch it.. Its so sad lewis & alonso didnt win it.. They where so entertaing to watch. I really thought lewis would be world champion
aldrinus
K810 Blue
Joined: Jan 16, 2005
Posts: > 500
From: Philippines
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 05:31
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Hi...

Could it be that the excitement between Alonzo and Hamilton is primarily due to the internal issue hounding McLaren since day one of this season (read: Ron Dennis favoring Lewis over Fernando).

Dennis is quite obvious in his preferential treatment of his protege over the reigning champion, which, i think is unfair. champion or rookie must be treated equally, right?

Anyway, the last two races proved to be Hamilton's heartbreaks. Alonzo just could not "go beyond" his usual performance. Kimi simply went past his limits and got his sweet reward...

The concluding race was live over at (ESPN) Star Sports here in our country later last night till the wee hours of the morning (11:30 pm to almost 2:00 am!). But it was all worth it! This final race was simply dramatic for the three title contenders and for the whole F1 sport as well.

[ This Message was edited by: aldrinus on 2007-10-22 04:36 ]
JK
W995 Red
Joined: Feb 24, 2005
Posts: > 500
From: S. Africa - JOZI
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 09:20
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
The English got whipped in the rugby and F1!
Bambino
K850 Blue
Joined: Sep 17, 2005
Posts: > 500
From: Clow Kingdom
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 10:13
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I think Lewis didnt make it to wdc is partially alonso fault.
Im very dissapointed with alonso, he pushes Lewis goin wide at the first lap, im so angry when lewis fall into 8th place
jcwhite_uk
Sony Xperia Z1
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Dorset, UK Phone:Xperia Z1
PM, WWW
Posted: 2007-10-22 10:26
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Raikkonen is actually the third Fin to win the Formula one world championship. The first was Keke Rosberg in 1982 in a Williams.
Checkout my photos at My Website

"Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the world together."
bravofly
T68i
Joined: Nov 21, 2002
Posts: 153
From: Estonia
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 11:04
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I´m very happy for the Iceman, he deserved it. But still, I would have been even happier to see Hamilton win, because it would have been cool to see everibodys faces when a first year rookie wins Hamilton did a very very good job and I really hope he wins next year.
Krubach
T39 black
Joined: Dec 05, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Sunny Portugal! :)
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 11:21
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post

On 2007-10-22 10:13:00, nokiamaniax wrote:
Im very dissapointed with alonso, he pushes Lewis goin wide at the first lap, im so angry when lewis fall into 8th place


Alonso did what!?!??!
Check the race again, you might find that it was Hamilton's fault all the way.

I am happy that Kimi won since i'm a "Ferraristi".

Hamilton lost the championship and it the only one to blame.
He could just hang in 4th behind Alonso and win the champ nice and easy, but noooooooo... he had to pass Alonso in the next corner (how childish).
Oh well his "rookieness" appeared in the decisive moment.

FIA (UK), Dennis (UK) and Bernie (UK) did everything (bending rules included) to give Hamilton (UK) the championship but they failed.
jcwhite_uk
Sony Xperia Z1
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Dorset, UK Phone:Xperia Z1
PM, WWW
Posted: 2007-10-22 11:59
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Hamilton could still claim the championship (very unlikely) if McLarens appeal against a fuel discrepancy with Williams goes in favour of McLaren.
Checkout my photos at My Website

"Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the world together."
>500
Vivaz Black
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 12:02
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
@JC

nope.... not any more.... heard this after noon on the news.... they already cancelled the investigation. No changes are to be made....
jcwhite_uk
Sony Xperia Z1
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Dorset, UK Phone:Xperia Z1
PM, WWW
Posted: 2007-10-22 12:07
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
There was an investigation which the officials decided not to inpose any discipline but McLaren have appealed now and it will be investigated again.
Checkout my photos at My Website

"Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the world together."
masseur
P910
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Sydney, London
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 12:18
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
and I think they should be as strict with these alledged offenders (cool fuel at pit stop) as they have been with McLaren offences this year

however, I'm sure that Lewis would not want to win under those circumstances and I also feel its a thoroughly deserved win for Kimi as he did win 6 grand prix, 2 more than Lewis

personally I was just happy that Alonso did not win, or come second even, given his bad attitude/sportsmanship late this year. I wonder if he will be with McLaren next year...
>500
Vivaz Black
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: > 500
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 12:18
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
doubt they will win.......... Ferrari would threaten to leave the F1 the F1 wouldnt want that ...........

batesie
T66 black
Joined: Feb 13, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: London, UK
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 15:12
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post

On 2007-10-22 09:20:22, JK wrote:
The English got whipped in the rugby and F1!



but England won the world conkers championships! we beat france too! [addsig]
aldrinus
K810 Blue
Joined: Jan 16, 2005
Posts: > 500
From: Philippines
PM
Posted: 2007-10-22 15:54
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
@jcwhite:
thanks for the correction regarding Finland producing THREE F1 champions... didn't know Rosberg was a Finn until you mentioned it. i thought he was German since the son Nico is of German nationality (could it be his mother's nationality then?).


@masseur:
definitely, you are dead on spot! Kimi really deserved to win considering the number of GPs he has won but then we could not ignore the fact that Lewis got podium honors save for three GPs. in fact, except for Felipe, it was only Fernando, Lewis and Kimi sharing the podium almost all the time this season.

been an F1 fan since 1999 but i guess my knowledge about the sport still needs a lot of sprucing up

the 2007 season was indeed incredibly hot! what a season-ending race it was in Brazil. cheers to Kimi and to Ferrari! would this spell another dynastic run for the years to come, post-Schumi era?

just some queries for us to ponder upon:

would Fernando come back home to Flavio's turf? where would that place the two current Renault drivers, Fisi in particular?

what about the 50.0M offered by Toyota to him to drive for them?

who would take his place alongside Lewis at McLaren if he leaves? i used to love McLaren when it was Mika and Kimi driving for them

ps:
guys, thanks for the interest in this non-mobile thread! cheers to all of us F1 fans!

_________________
... life is an echo. it gives back what you have given.

[ This Message was edited by: aldrinus on 2007-10-22 14:55 ]
Access the forum with a mobile phone via esato.mobi