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The truth about HSDPA speeds on T-Mobile |
Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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From: London England
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Hi all,
Owing to the amount of speculation and pontification being spouted about T-Mobiles HSDPA service and the N95 not being able to use 3.6mbps speeds i spoke to T-Mobile earlier.
The situation is not as has been stated by some that the N95 doesn't support HSDPA @3.6mbps at all. The current situation is this currently the T-Mobile network supports 1.8mbps and by the end of the Year will support 7.2mbps they are not implementing 3.6mbps and then 7.2mbps as when they introduce the 7.2mbps it means this will be the maximum speed and all speeds up to this will work. So in fact whilst i and most where only expecting 3.6mbps by the end of the Year T-Mobile are puling out all the stops and rolling out an even faster service.
So who ever claimed the N95 is deficient compared to other devices you need to check your facts as no devices on T-Mobile can run @3.6mbps as T-Mobile doesn't support it yet.
Marc
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sapporobaby
Joined: Sep 14, 2003
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From: Finland. Kuwait maybe :)
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Marc "Dogmann" for prez. Another gem my friend. Same situation here in Finland but the "all knowing" will still not believe it. 
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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while I respect what Dogmann has posted is what he has been told over the phone, I've been searching for something on the t-mobile web site to further confirm this but unfortunately all I can find is a press release dated 20 June last year stating that:
Next year, T-Mobile intends to increase HSDPA speeds up to 3.6 megabits per second. It intends following this with further increases through 7.2 and then 10 megabytes per second, targetting speeds in excess of 20 megabits per second by the end of the decade
can anyone fnid anything later than that which contradicts this press release and confirms what Dogmann has been told?
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JK
Joined: Feb 24, 2005
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From: S. Africa - JOZI
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So which country in the world supports HSDPA at 3.6MB or higher? Japs excluding.
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Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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Hi Masseur,
I phoned T-Mobile this morning and got myself transferred to Data support and spoke to some one that both new and understood what i was talking about. They didn't give me a stock answer but went away and double checked that the information i was given was correct.
As you can imagine i believed 3.6mbps was due by Year end so being told it would be 7.2mbps was quite a pleasant surprise and a very positive sign of things to come.
As i have said previously i really do think next year is going to prove to be very exciting indeed for us Data device addicts and users. They where also quite happy to point out that they are the only Network currently working on releasing 7.2mbps, the other Networks are still 1.8mbps and working on 3.6mbps. Besisdes T-Mobile still having excellent Data packages there on going commitment to improving their Data services is very reassuring to me as a T-Mobile customer.
Marc
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batesie
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From: London, UK
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On 2007-07-17 12:27:51, 786KBR wrote:
So which country in the world supports HSDPA at 3.6MB or higher? Japs excluding.
Croatian VIPnet network supports the speed of 7.2 Mbit/s in down-link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Packet_Access
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIPnet
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sapporobaby
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On 2007-07-17 12:27:51, 786KBR wrote:
Japs excluding.
Ignorant. Oh racist and bigoted as well but South Africa, what can you expect?
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masseur
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From: Sydney, London
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@Dogmann, its likely its correct if you didn't get it from the front line customer support (who we know can give 3 different answers if you call 3 times!) but you know what doubting thomas' here are like so I thought I'd try to back it up with something tangible
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batesie
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On 2007-07-17 12:39:17, sapporobaby wrote:
On 2007-07-17 12:27:51, 786KBR wrote:
Japs excluding.
Ignorant. Oh racist and bigoted as well but South Africa, what can you expect?
No, its not meant in a negative way? global forum here and japs is just a shortened version, like brits (british) ?
he means the japanese are already way ahead of everyone else in the world!
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batesie
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so this could be part of T-Mobiles involvement in release 7....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSPA%2B
HSPA+ (or HSPA Evolution) is a 3G mobile telephony protocol defined in 3GPP release 7 (expected in 2007). It enhances HSPA providing 42 Mbit/s on the downlink and 11 Mbit/s on the uplink.
(Not to be confused with HSOPA, a proposal for 3GPP Long Term Evolution expected for 2008 or later)
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Dogmann
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Hi Masseur,
Of course i understand completely and that is why i have been happy to explain further the steps i took to make as sure as possible that i was being given correct information. Especially when she said they were going straight to 7.2mbps that's just not the sort of guessing any one could come up with by accident and why i got her to check it.
@batesie
That's way too many acronyms for this time of the morning thank you and what happened to HSUPA?
Marc
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batesie
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@batesie
That's way too many acronyms for this time of the morning thank you and what happened to HSUPA?
Marc
Thats just the uplink part of HSPA:
High-Speed Uplink Packet Access (HSUPA) is a 3G mobile telephony protocol in the HSPA family with up-link speeds up to 5.76 Mbit/s.
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sapporobaby
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From: Finland. Kuwait maybe :)
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On 2007-07-17 12:42:07, batesie wrote:
On 2007-07-17 12:39:17, sapporobaby wrote:
On 2007-07-17 12:27:51, 786KBR wrote:
Japs excluding.
Ignorant. Oh racist and bigoted as well but South Africa, what can you expect?
No, its not meant in a negative way? global forum here and japs is just a shortened version, like brits (british) ?
he means the japanese are already way ahead of everyone else in the world!
Thanks for the clarification. I just hate that crap and Esato surly does not need that here.
To 786KBR, my bad.
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JK
Joined: Feb 24, 2005
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From: S. Africa - JOZI
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On 2007-07-17 12:39:17, sapporobaby wrote:
On 2007-07-17 12:27:51, 786KBR wrote:
Japs excluding.
Ignorant. Oh racist and bigoted as well but South Africa, what can you expect?
 relax dear boy, was technically a compliment to them as they are ahead of the rest of the world, especially in the mobile sector, sorry if you got offended.
Yet the second part im worried about... "well but SA, what can you expect?" What is that suppose to mean??
No im not racist!
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sapporobaby
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On 2007-07-17 13:16:39, 786KBR wrote:
On 2007-07-17 12:39:17, sapporobaby wrote:
On 2007-07-17 12:27:51, 786KBR wrote:
Japs excluding.
Ignorant. Oh racist and bigoted as well but South Africa, what can you expect?
relax dear boy, was technically a compliment to them as they are ahead of the rest of the world, especially in the mobile sector, sorry if you got offended.
Yet the second part im worried about... "well but SA, what can you expect?" What is that suppose to mean??
No im not racist!
I was throwing a dig back to defend our global Japanese brethren. I was rushed for time, so that was the best I could come up with at the moment.
Either way, I was wrong and you were right.
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