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MG7
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Posted: 2007-06-19 21:33
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According to what laws?
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Posted: 2007-06-19 21:44
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On 2007-06-19 19:24:59, c0mm0n wrote:
Virgile confirmed today, it would be the very last :

"But it won't prevent this version from being the last for p990"

http://www.planete-se.net/ind[....]c=17778&view=findpost&p=231881
It`s in french

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jldiablo
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Posted: 2007-06-19 22:15
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hope P990 can update to UIQ 3.1 in the next firmware....possible?
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Posted: 2007-06-19 22:33
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According to the laws in the UE


On 2007-06-19 21:33:11, MG7 wrote:
According to what laws?
makbil
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Posted: 2007-06-19 22:56
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In Europe the warranty on the P990 is 2 years. The consumer law also states that the manufacturer has to support and correct all problems during the life cycle of the product (obviously the life cycle can't be less than the warranty period).
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD
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Posted: 2007-06-19 23:02
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On 2007-06-19 22:15:29, jldiablo wrote:
hope P990 can update to UIQ 3.1 in the next firmware....possible?

What new fw? Haven't you been reading what the topic of this discussion is ?
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD
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Posted: 2007-06-19 23:18
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jldiablo, there will be no more firmwares for p990 m600 and w950. well this a rumor. i hope it's not true
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Posted: 2007-06-20 10:33
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I think the following information explains why the most we can hope for is a fw release that fixes the current bugs.


Garbarge Collector

Symbian OS uses a Garbage Collector as memory manager - in theory this should ease programming.

However Until Symbian 9.5 Symbian only uses an inferior non moving collector. (To be fair: moving collectors don't go well with programming languages which support pointer arithmetic)

With a non moving collector memory becomes fragmented into ever smaller parts until larger memory requests cannot be satisfied any more. To make matter worse: Fragmentation happens a lot quicker of only little free space is available - Which is the case for early UIQ3 phones.

This leads to the dreaded "Restart to improve performance" as restarting is the ultimate way to reclaim and compact all memory. Just ending all programs won't help since there are quite a few programs on the phone which will never end.

As mentioned Symbian 9.5 rectifies this shortcomings and now uses a moving collector which will be able to re-arrange memory so that free memory will be available as one great continues lump.

XIP or the lack of it

Prior to SymbianOS 9.0, many Symbian devices used XIP (eXecute In Place) NOR based memory, which mean nothing had to be loaded into RAM to execute, but this came at the cost of very slow write times. Starting with 9.0, most devices moved to a NAND based memory system, which does not support XIP, and so EVERYTHING has to be loaded into RAM (and kept there) in order to execute. That's why it takes over 40MB of RAM to run the system, as everything is kept at all times.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD
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Posted: 2007-06-20 10:51
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On 2007-06-19 23:18:44, antichrist wrote:
jldiablo, there will be no more firmwares for p990 m600 and w950. well this a rumor. i hope it's not true



We all hope! M600 didn't get the latest fw so it would be pitty for all m600 users because tere is a long way to go.
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Posted: 2007-06-20 10:57
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Fine, let it be bugfixes only!! we need nothing from the P990 and M600 except that...GOD THEY ARE BUGGY AS HELL
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Posted: 2007-06-20 11:43
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No, let us have a true multitasking product, that is what I bought and that is what I want, Apart from no touch screen my N95 is out performing the P990 regularly and since I put the awful R6 on it its streets ahead!

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Posted: 2007-06-20 13:14
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Use this link to provide SE with your feedback on their decision to stop developing for P990i and M600

http://developer.sonyericsson.com/thread.jspa?threadID=39963

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Mr[NiK]
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Posted: 2007-06-20 14:01
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@aloner

ive just signed up and voiced mine! [addsig]
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Posted: 2007-06-20 14:38
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On 2007-06-20 14:01:26, Mr[NiK] wrote:
@aloner

ive just signed up and voiced mine!



Count me in.
dr_thug
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Posted: 2007-06-20 14:53
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Can we include M600 and W950 to the name of this thread to attract those users too??Its not just we P990 users who will be abandoned by SE.
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