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SE insider : R6D23 = last P990 firmware ?! |
antichrist
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On 2007-06-17 16:05:37, c0mm0n wrote:
the more I think we've really been sold a bunch of crap
that bunch of crap you bought,  didn't forced you to buy that phone. i bet you had the opportunity to test the phone before you bought it. you should have realized then it's not worth the money. don't blame now that the phone sucks
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Mizzle
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He was banned for a week.
Anyways, I talk to him almost daily. This R6 update was supposed to be the 'big' update and R7 being the one to clear up all the bugs and thereby ending the firmware updates for P990.
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aloner
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After waiting for the R6 firmware update patiently, and just find itīs a source of new bugs (I canīt believe how SE quality assurance procedures let the space bar bug pass unnoticed), I am not too confident on SE or any future firmware releases.
I was so excited when I bought my P990i and now I am so disappointed..... |
firetech
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I don't really get this 'guinea pig' argument. In what sense did we make SE understand what would need fixing? SE doesn't seem to listen to what we want anyway...
What we might have been doing is pay the wages for SE's developers 
Anyhow, if this really is the last firmware, SE has make a quite wrong assumption. All we can hope for is that they change their minds, or that someone in the future will 'backport' the firmware of either the P1i or the P990's successor, just like what has been done with P910/P900, K750/W800 and W950/M600.
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makbil
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@antichrist, unfortunately not everyone has a chance to test a phone before buying. Most retailers don't want to open a box as next time a new customer is presented with a previously opened box they don't seem to like it.
There is a thread at SE dev forum:
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/thread.jspa?threadID=39963
It's about SE's alleged intention to stop updating the P990, please join and let SE know how we feel about this.
Edit: Sorry, corrected link.
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c0mm0n
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link doesn't work
edit : http://developer.sonyericsson[....]d.jspa?threadID=39963&tstart=0
[ This Message was edited by: c0mm0n on 2007-06-18 16:08 ] |
Nitro Fan
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On 2007-06-17 17:44:47, mobilemodman wrote:
if that's true someone at SE is gonna get stabbed soon, i aint living with the space bar phone call bug, plus opera mobile will keep updating, we need to update aswell, ever scince I bought the P990, ive been getting the feeling that P990 users were beta testers for the upcoming p1 and w960, and trust me, that isnt a very nice feeling
All P990 users have been beta testers for the P990 let alone the upcomming devices! I am not sure actualy have a structured testing proceedure in house, I can understand that its much cheaper to get the users to do it for free
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot. |
Nitro Fan
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On 2007-06-17 22:36:08, antichrist wrote:
On 2007-06-17 16:05:37, c0mm0n wrote:
the more I think we've really been sold a bunch of crap
that bunch of crap you bought, didn't forced you to buy that phone. i bet you had the opportunity to test the phone before you bought it. you should have realized then it's not worth the money. don't blame now that the phone sucks
I disagree, there is now way you could have tested the phone to the point you need before you buy it, no supplier would let you play with it for that long!
are responsible for supplying goods that are capable of meeting their advertised specifications if they fail to do that, it is their fault NOT the fault of the user who spent their money in good faith
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot. |
R.Mugabe
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It works just fine on my P990i 
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xumdeo
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how long did s60 take to debug?
how long did you give SE to debug?
how many generations of s60 products have you seen before the speed and RAM is "just" sufficient?
how many generations of products with the new UIQ should you expect from SE before most of the "glaring" issues are solved?
pleae be fair, just assume that SE works just as fast as the Nokia dudes, and the world will be a better place to live in
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Nitro Fan
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On 2007-06-17 23:24:37, thecoolsha wrote:
He was banned for a week.
Anyways, I talk to him almost daily. This R6 update was supposed to be the 'big' update and R7 being the one to clear up all the bugs and thereby ending the firmware updates for P990.
I cant see that what he did warrented a ban, we have people here who never even get a wrist slap (one seems to think he can use his position here to bully those who disagree with his view of the world!!) ares and I do not always see eye to eye but I value his presence here as he makes some good points and without doubt he knows his stuff technicaly
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot. |
drgopoos
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common guys, what did ares do for all this.. he is no SE man, just that he supports uiq with all his soul.....
you should appreciate that he know s some one within SE
another thing about this stopping of support is crap.. |
antichrist
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nitrofan, before i bought the phone, i tested it 3 times and the FIRST time i entered the media player it showed the kernl error. i had a lot of thinking if it's worth the risk or not(finally decided yes-that's why i bought it)
is responsible for supplying good that are capable of meeting their advertised specifications, BUT it does NOT say how efficient. for example,with the first firmware, you can listen to music, can navigate the net, can talk with someone and have some programs running in the background but if i try to do that simultaneously and if i receive an error, can i blame ? no. i can do all of that but not simultaneous. the fact that this problem was solved via update, it's another story. and why are we blaming for? for not solving all the problems, we are not having a perfect phone.
now do you agree?
ps:i know it supposed to support multitasking, but if we cannot have 10 programs open, that doesn't mean we don't have multitasking. listening to music and writing a message IS multitasking.....
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Ibinco
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Why not start an online petition?! So many users on esato that are truely dissapointed with performance. SE need to feel the pain for producing possibly the buggiest Smartphone ever.
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Nitro Fan
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On 2007-06-18 18:41:53, antichrist wrote:
nitrofan, before i bought the phone, i tested it 3 times and the FIRST time i entered the media player it showed the kernl error. i had a lot of thinking if it's worth the risk or not(finally decided yes-that's why i bought it)
is responsible for supplying good that are capable of meeting their advertised specifications, BUT it does NOT say how efficient. for example,with the first firmware, you can listen to music, can navigate the net, can talk with someone and have some programs running in the background but if i try to do that simultaneously and if i receive an error, can i blame ? no. i can do all of that but not simultaneous. the fact that this problem was solved via update, it's another story. and why are we blaming for? for not solving all the problems, we are not having a perfect phone.
now do you agree?
ps:i know it supposed to support multitasking, but if we cannot have 10 programs open, that doesn't mean we don't have multitasking. listening to music and writing a message IS multitasking.....
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[ This Message was edited by: antichrist on 2007-06-18 17:44 ]
If I sell my customers something and then try to quibble that its "working - almost" I wont keep my customers long!!
If you really belive that the customers are wrong to buy the device I wont try to change your mind.
In my world I want what I am paying for and nothing less, so I am perfectly at liberty to say when the supplier is not keeping their part of the bargain, especialy when they have had my hard earned money.
simply never tested the P990i correctly that is why they are dropping FW upgrades after such a short period they know they cant make it better
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot. | |
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