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brownie1989
Joined: Feb 23, 2005
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I have seen lots of people in the UK, England and the phones with 3G always use there batteries up 5x faster than 2G phones. there arnt many places in England where i can pick up a 3G signal. so is there any point of wasting my money. |
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jcwhite_uk
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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From: Dorset, UK Phone:Xperia Z1
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I nearly always have a 3G signal. I use it 3G a lot, mainly for the high speed data but also the video calling evry so often. |
whentheleveebreaks
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I turned it off, get twice the amount of battery power without it, plus its a bit pointless, i use wifi at work and at home and i never video call as it never works.
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Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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@brownie1989
I don't know where you are in the UK but 3G coverage is good in most places and by most Networks. I never use Video calling and doubt i ever will but if you use Mobile Data the difference in speed is like using Dial up compared to Broadband.
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Sammy_boy
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I have to admit I'm not that bothered about upgrading to 3G. I might use the quicker data speeds a bit, but only for things like checking emails and browsing Esato... which I can do fine with 2.5G!
I'm quite happy on 2G and will stick with it for the immediate future at any rate, will wait till 3G data rates come down a bit more and people like three get rid of their ridiculous content 'walled garden'.
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Dogmann
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@Sammy_boy
Not too sure what you mean by when Data rates come down a bit more as if you are with T-Mobile and take either of their Web N Walk tariffs they are either £7.50 or £10 per month and even 3 now have 2 Data packages at similar prices and if you get a HSPDA able device T-Mobile even include this speed increase in their price plans. 3.5G speeds are going to be getting much faster over the next couple of Years and much faster than Broadband speeds are at the moment all this of course means nothing if you don't use or intend to use Mobile Data.
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BobaFett
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
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3g is a great feature, do love it. Especially cos its very fast at browsing. But for a really useful usage get a fone with edge and 3g support
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Supa_Fly
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3G is not the problem > well at least on your side of the pound & in your various wonderous countries. On my side of the pond in my country Canada its just TOO expensive!
For most of you gents in Europe its battery technology and frugal consumption there of. Battery technologies for cellphones are just too old.
> Fuel Cell is still too new and too bulky to incorporate for usuage of our slim factor phones today.
As the future consumption rate for power continues our requirement for it will increase. |
alrodlop35
Joined: Nov 11, 2006
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I don't know if I'm lucky or unlucky I don't have this dilemma. There's no 3G in my country!
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BobaFett
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Hope u ll have it soon. Its great to watch tv when u have to travel around
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darrengf
Joined: Dec 21, 2003
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I have used 3G Technology now for the last 3 years, (An Early Adapter of 3G)
And So far its the bigest and best thing for Mobiles.
However yes that are downsides. When using 3g on your mobile (Video Calling or normal calling) Battery does drain quicker this is how the technology works currenlty, however so far this is improving all the time.
I Use Orange 3G and so far have been very impressed. The network is getting bigger every monh, I know get 3g coverage in the country side where i have never had it before. I also use o2 3g and can say that this is getting better, but no where nearly as big as Orange or the other networks.
I use 3g for video calling, data, emails and mms. Its so much faster in every respect
Is there anything i don't like. No not really. Battery life i would say for what i use is good (SE K800i) However I did have a Nokia N80 and the battery life on there was shocking. You needed to carry a car battery round with you all the time.
What you have to remember tho why the battery drains faster than a normal 2g phone.
When you have 3G Signal you phone will also look for a 2G signal as a back up. So if you are making a call, you lose the 3g signal and transfer over to 2g like you never knew anything was happening.
Never had a problem wih oranges 3g transfer, However i cant say the same about o2 3g to 2g warm transfer.
If you live in the uk where you have no 3g, your phone will work harder to look for one thus your battery will not last as long. (The phone was designed and built for 3g)
This is an example of battery life
you make a call on the 3g network (voice call only)
The phone still looks for a 2g signal (Making the phone work twice as hard)
If the phone then goes automaticaly trasnfers to the 2g network the phone stops looking for the 3g as it knows it isnt required so making the phone only use the normal battery life.
You turn the phone onto 2g only, the phone never searchs for the 3g network and so saves on battery life.
Also there are other factors involved. If you live in a country where you live near mobile phone mast, the phone will hardly use any battery as it knows it has near to 100% perfect signal strength.
You live in a part of the country where the signal is poor, The phone works harder to look for a better signal and keep hold of the poor signal it has.
i luv 3g and cant wait for 4g which isnt all that far away.
@alrodlop35 Regarding your country, Currenlty there is no agreements or any new agreements regarding 3g in your country.
The problem is that where you live had a different way of using your mobile phones and the networks i beleive didnt follow the GSM route with most of the world.
The GSM networks in Colombia are still in there early stages I beleive your youngest network is only 4 year old.
The 3G has to have a special licence then from your goverment and i know the as you use 850mhz/1900mhz you will gain 1900mhz 3g technology.
Again rest of the world except USA for 3G uses 2100mhz, and i beleive that there are not many phones out there for the 1900mhz 3G band.
Hope this helps.
@Prom1
Regarding Canada, This is down to how people over your side of the pond use there phones.
Europe tend to use Data and SMS, however USA and Canada generaly use PTT (Push to Talk) and voice more.
Its a Culture difference.
I can remeber when i first went to the USA with my first Camera phone, Well i had people coming up to me asking me to look at it and asking me what i was doing with my phone.
I know when i was in the states in Dec I was in the local Mobile shops and was browsing when the sales staff new i was from england they were asking me what phones we had.
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Dogmann
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@darrengf
Sorry but i have to disagree with you on my phone a Nokia N93 i can choose UMTS, GSM or Dual mode. So as i am with T-Mobile and mainly in London i can select UMTS and have an excellent 3G signal without my phone constantly searching for both GSM and 3G signals. maybe that's why i have such good battery life as it doesn't constantly search for signals.
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darrengf
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@Dogmann
As the N93 is a smart phone like the P990 you are able to choose GSM, UMTS or Both.
None Smart like the k800i allows you to choose GSM+UMTS or GSM only.
However some networks (Three) remove the function altogether so you are not able to choose what band you want.
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*Jojo*
Joined: Oct 15, 2003
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I manage to OWN some 3G fones in the past (N70, K800, K600, K608i . . .) and I can say that I rarely USE the fone's - 3G feature (only ONCE I guess  ). The RATE of usin' the VIDEO CALL and LIVE CALL at one my my end's NETWORKS charges the same . . . so, practicality wise, might as well USE the Video Call - right But the problem is . . . 3G handsets still cost a BIT expensive thatn the normal ones . . . given some more time, everybody can afford one . . . and I am very OPTIMISTIC that Video Calling will become as ORDINARY as sending: SMS or MMS . . . in a few year's time.
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alrodlop35
Joined: Nov 11, 2006
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@darrengf
I wasn't really aware of this issue because I'm not very interested in having 3G. My mom sure would love it though.
I know former OLA (now Tigo) was researching implementing 3G but it's just not viable in a country where more than 70% of users are on a pre-pay account and use very low end handsets. Also since they've been absorbed they're focusing on the low end of the market for people with limited budget.
I also don't think the coverage could be any good since the country has so many mountains and remote places cell signal can't reach.
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