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Question: Making W800i behave as a Plain Bluetooth Dongle |
CellDude123
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Hi,
I wanted to know whether I can make behave W800i as a plain Bluetooth Dongle.
Something like, I connect the W800i to the PC via the USB-Cable & then transfer few files from another bluetooth enabled phone directly to my PC via W800i. The W800i, here, should just act as an intermediary, something that a Bluetooth dongle does, nothing more. Also the data should hopefully go directly to the PC, maybe with only some intermediate storage. The whole file should NOT be stored on W800i before it can be transferred on PC. That would defeat the whole purpose of simple Bluetooth Device.
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max_wedge
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On 2006-09-18 09:51:44, CellDude123 wrote:
Hi,
I wanted to know whether I can make behave W800i as a plain Bluetooth Dongle.
Something like, I connect the W800i to the PC via the USB-Cable & then transfer few files from another bluetooth enabled phone directly to my PC via W800i. The W800i, here, should just act as an intermediary, something that a Bluetooth dongle does, nothing more. Also the data should hopefully go directly to the PC, maybe with only some intermediate storage. The whole file should NOT be stored on W800i before it can be transferred on PC. That would defeat the whole purpose of simple Bluetooth Device.
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Guy.
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unfortunantly the phone isn't capable at acting as a Bluetooth dongle. The best you can do is transer stuff to the phone via bluetooth, then transfer to the computer via cable. I realise that's not what you are asking, but what you want simply isn't possible.
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CellDude123
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Hey thanks max_wedge for the reply. Even I somewhat knew that  I just had hoped there wud be someway.
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mcrosser
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I was also wanting that, but using my phone as an infrared adaptor. My friend has K300 and wants to pass his videos to my PC when he's at my house, but I only have a Bluetooth dongle. And I can't transfer to my phone (T630), since it doen't support videos and the memory is limited.
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CellDude123
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Guess we all have our small issues that SE in its current form is inept of solving. Lets hope for a bright future. |
max_wedge
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wtf? I don't think it's "inept" that SE haven't designed your mobile phone as bluetooth dongle (or IR dongle). I doubt there is a phone in existence that is designed to act as a bluetooth dongle.
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mcrosser
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well, today I went to see a university, they where doing an exposition about a carrer, that had something to do with electronics; and I asked the guy later, if it could be posible to create a bridge from the IR port to the bluetooth antenna (I saw he had a P900), and he told me it might be possible. Then later I talked to a guy from another university that was there working (he was from a better university) and I asked him the same thing. He told me that in hardware it's not possible, because of different frecuencies, something like that he said; but that would be a job for software part. So it would have to be a programer with knowledge on cellphone hardware. Anyone up for the job ??
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max_wedge
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yes, in other words, redesign the firmware. Even the programmers bringing out patches aren't actually decompiling the firmware. They are just hacks. This neeeds to be coded fromthe ground up.
And to redisign the firmware so it works, would involve sacrifing other features.
You can be sure if phone makers don't setup the bluetooth as a bluetooth dongle, it's because there is massive development cost involved.
And as far as hardware goes, well yes, you probably can make a phone and cable into a bluetooth dongle, but you may just have to sacrafice using the handset as a phone to get the right software on there. Without a hardware implementation of bluetooth dongle protocols, it has to take up room that the existing firmware uses for other features to make room for the dongle software.
Firmware is not like windows, where you usually have more ram, hard drive etc than you explicitly need. Firmware runs on a very limited platform, designed to do a limited job.
And to make a bridge between IR and Bluetooth???? Infrared uses IR light, bluetooth uses a 2.4GHz RF signal. When the guy said they are different frequencies, he meant they are completely incompatible. "Software" can't make the two signals talk to eachother.
As far as the bluetooth antenna is concerned, it is completely blind to the IR signal. It simply can't see IR light. Infact, the plastic that covers the bluetooth antena is opaque to IR light, so the IR signal can't reflect off the bluetooth antenna anyway, even if it was sensitive to IR light (which it isn't).
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qwerty12
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Just buy a dongle. I picked up a CSR USB 100M Bluetooth Dongle for £15. No one has ever made a custom firmware for SE phones. THe closest that's happened is patches.
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On 2006-09-20 08:31:21, qwerty12 wrote:
Just buy a dongle. I picked up a CSR USB 100M Bluetooth Dongle for £15. No one has ever made a custom firmware for SE phones. THe closest that's happened is patches.
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Yes, dongles are so cheap. Even Ir dongles are cheap these days.
The closest to hand made firmware I've seen is the P905 (An actual P900 with half P900 firmware and half P910 firmware - basically a P900 with MSD Pro support.)
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