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Posted: 2006-08-23 15:47
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Hi guys n girls,

Well, I'm just about to move into my new house, but before I do, I want to set-up my broadband.

As it stands, the house has a BT line, but obviously its been disconnected, so we currently don't have a phone number. I presume I call BT to get this, but my real question is, once I've set up with BT, can I switch straight over to Bulldog, as they offer crazy-fast broadband (16Mb for £24 per month), and a fairly cheap call package (Unlimited calls for £12.00 per month).

Can somebody;
1) Reassure me that Bulldog is a good choice?
2) Tell me, do I have to pay a BT line rental on-top of Bulldogs charges?
3) An outline of the process, I'm a complete noobie when it comes to bills etc

Thanks for your help guys!

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Posted: 2006-08-23 16:01
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Bulldog is shite m8, heard nothing but bad stuff.

Slow speeds and crap customer service.

Also they may do 16mb broadband....but if your house can only recive 1mb, then thats all you will get!

I'd look into either Pipex or Demon 8mb broadband.
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Posted: 2006-08-23 16:04
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Hi,

You will need to get connected to BT first and get the line active before you sign to any broadband service (apart from BT broadband itself).So once the line is active you can sign up with Bulldog and they should activated your service withing a couple of weeks,although they are not respected for their reliability when it comes to connection dates,sometimes they take much longer.

The package shown is a good offer.

1)Bulldog is good but they have a lot of technical issues which sometimes makes their service unreliable and if you report a fault you may mind that it takes them sometimes upto 3 days to sort the problem out...which is pretty lame if you ask me as BT does it within 24 hours.

2)You won't need to pay a seperate line rental to BT,once signed up with Bulldog they will be your main provider.

3)Makes sure you check your Bulldog bills regularly before paying them as they sometime over charge...it happened to me and a friend twice. [addsig]
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Posted: 2006-08-23 16:04
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I've actually just read something on the internet which states that BT and Telewest give better reliability and speed....maybe I'll leave Bulldog...

I'm tempted by telewest as its 10Mb and has no download limit unlike BT...

Would I still need to activate my line with Telewest or would it be seperate? The previous owners actually have a Telewest box on the wall in the lounge, so I'm guessing we'd connect straight to that?

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Posted: 2006-08-23 16:13
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Yeah, Telewest is a cable company. Their broadband uses their own cable system rather than a phone line.

You can also use Telewest for your landline as well as broadband if you wish, or go with BT or another provider for the phone and just use Telewest for broadband.
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Posted: 2006-08-23 16:32
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You didn't listen to what I said

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I'm tempted by telewest as its 10Mb and has no download limit unlike BT...



They could do 1000mb Broadband, it DOESN'T mean you can get that speed!
It's just the fastest they do, and you would have to live pretty much right next to the exchange to get that full speed.
The further away you are, the mor it goes down.

For example, I can get 4mb, my mate 10min drive up the road can get 6.5mb.

We both pay the same though, 8mb demon.

Also, they don't have a *download* limit....but I know for 1, BT has a masssssive fair use policy, as in...they're 1 of the strictist around.
So if you like your downloads, BT is a deff nono as they WILL cap your line with a speed restriction.

Pipex done it to me, I was on unlimited for 5 years, they then capped my line under the fair usage policy and between 6pm and 12am my line went from 2mb to 56k.....Was painfull!

So make sure you read on on companies fair usage policys, they can be just as bad as a cap.

Also when you get your number, go here:
www.bt.co.uk/broadband

Put your number in and it will tell you what the max speed you can get is.

Just cause they do 10mb, most certainly does not mean you will be getting that....even though it's the same price.
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Posted: 2006-08-23 16:39
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i've pipex max...

25 beans a month for 8mb unlimited dl..

and trust me when i say its unlimited dl....



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Posted: 2006-08-23 18:00
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@ÈL ® ö B ì Ñ

And you didn't read my answer either!

Telewest uses it's own cable network, much of which uses fibre optics, not BT's network so you don't the problem of varying speeds depending upon location.
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Posted: 2006-08-23 18:01
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I was thinking of going with bulldog but pipex can offer me 5.5mb, also for £25 beans a month so i am sticking, never had a problem with them.
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Posted: 2006-08-23 18:22
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ermm beans in my post and beans in your post wifey..

you copying me dearest??



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Posted: 2006-08-23 18:58
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On 2006-08-23 16:39:33, fatreg wrote:
i've pipex max...

25 beans a month for 8mb unlimited dl..

and trust me when i say its unlimited dl....



fatreg




Naaa they suck ass

Lol, they capped me and my mate, I was on about 200GB-300GB a month for about 6-7 months, then they capped us both and refused to take us of, EVER....which basically ment they wanted us to pay £30 for 56k.

Haha.

Be carefull with pipex m8, they don't care about their customers no matter how long you have been with them, I was with them over 5 years and they didn't care.
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Posted: 2006-08-23 22:13
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On 2006-08-23 15:47:29, SE Rules wrote:
Hi guys n girls,

Well, I'm just about to move into my new house, but before I do, I want to set-up my broadband.

As it stands, the house has a BT line, but obviously its been disconnected, so we currently don't have a phone number. I presume I call BT to get this, but my real question is, once I've set up with BT, can I switch straight over to Bulldog, as they offer crazy-fast broadband (16Mb for £24 per month), and a fairly cheap call package (Unlimited calls for £12.00 per month).

Can somebody;
1) Reassure me that Bulldog is a good choice?
2) Tell me, do I have to pay a BT line rental on-top of Bulldogs charges?
3) An outline of the process, I'm a complete noobie when it comes to bills etc

Thanks for your help guys!

Cheers



SHTOP no rush...

Yes you can change over asap from bt to bulldog.

1. they are completely rubbish and unorganised as a company. They always used to take out the wrong amount of money from my account. which was meant to be £20 they took out £190 somethink like that. And then i had to chase them up and ask them "are you guys mad".

Stay completely away from these cow boys, seriously you want be happy. my friend had bulldog and he has problems with his phone line, sometimes it works and sometimes it dont. lol
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Posted: 2006-08-24 01:12
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On 2006-08-23 16:32:13, ÈL ® ö B ì Ñ wrote:
You didn't listen to what I said

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I'm tempted by telewest as its 10Mb and has no download limit unlike BT...



They could do 1000mb Broadband, it DOESN'T mean you can get that speed!
It's just the fastest they do, and you would have to live pretty much right next to the exchange to get that full speed.
The further away you are, the mor it goes down.

For example, I can get 4mb, my mate 10min drive up the road can get 6.5mb.

We both pay the same though, 8mb demon.

Also, they don't have a *download* limit....but I know for 1, BT has a masssssive fair use policy, as in...they're 1 of the strictist around.
So if you like your downloads, BT is a deff nono as they WILL cap your line with a speed restriction.

Pipex done it to me, I was on unlimited for 5 years, they then capped my line under the fair usage policy and between 6pm and 12am my line went from 2mb to 56k.....Was painfull!

So make sure you read on on companies fair usage policys, they can be just as bad as a cap.

Also when you get your number, go here:
http://www.bt.co.uk/broadband

Put your number in and it will tell you what the max speed you can get is.

Just cause they do 10mb, most certainly does not mean you will be getting that....even though it's the same price.




No, I do understand what you're saying, but I'll be living in London, so I'm kinda guessing I'll never be too far away from the exchange.

I'm just trying to ge the best broadband, eg fastest speed no DL limit, as theres 4 of us in this house all with PC's. We don't need a phone as we all have mobiles etc
So, I just guess Telewest are teh best way forward.

@fatreg
I'm scared of pipex purely becuase of David Hasselhoff, old orange men in leather, conjures up bad thoughts lol

Cheers

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Posted: 2006-08-24 12:45
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I have been with Bulldog since they started and have really had a problem. Few simple rules to maxing out your line.

1) You need to be in a few hundred meters of your exchange to get optimum speed ( I just moved to my new flat with completley new cabling and I am able hit 20Mbps no problem I am currently 300Meteres from the exchange straight line distance)

2)You dont need to sign up to BT first with bulldog you can order your new line and broadband all at the same time take about 2-3 weeks to be completed.

3)The master socket in your house is your best friend, if it is an old BT master socket try and get the face plate removed and install a better quality one..il send you some links later. alternativly when you remove the face plate plug directly into the test socket for optimum speeds. An example was when I moved in I pluged straight into the master socket and was syncin at 16Mbps removed the face plate and directly connected to test socket and bang 20Mbps.

4)The router is the most important thing, my advise is the Belkin 7633 ugly as it make look its one of the best to tweak to change the SNR on the line to either lower it or increase it again for optimum speeds.

5)So try and check this website http://www.dslzoneuk.net/checker.php?input=address

6)and here is a step by step of playing with the BT socket http://www.dslzoneuk.net/socket.php

7)If number 5 doesnt work try this one http://www.samknows.com/broadband/checker2.php

If you have any questions give me a shout, I would say Bulldog is really the place to go, I manage to pull down 20Mbps no problem with Newsgroups and Gigabyte files never seemed so small.
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Posted: 2006-08-24 14:24
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The master socket in your house is your best friend, if it is an old BT master socket try and get the face plate removed and install a better quality one



2 BT Engirneers round my house told me before I fit this new 1 do I want to keep this old one as it's alot better as it uses quality copper wirering or something....So don't go replacing old one thinging "new is better". It's possibly not.


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The router is the most important thing, my advise is the Belkin 7633



Naaa big mistake, it's a cheap mans netgear.
Save up ya pennys a bit longer and get something of decent quality, a Netgear router, trust me you won't regret it.


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