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When will SE change charger connector? |
x2x3x2
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Any insiders here know if SE has any plans to change their charger connectors for the better anytime soon?
I'm sure most SE users have experienced this after a few months use of their mobiles.
Step 1. Plug in charger to phone.
Step 2. Doesn't show charging status.
Step 3. Wriggle/push/pull the charging cable trying to get the right tension so it makes good contact.
Step 4. Check back 10 mins later or slightly nudge the phone, contact of charging cable may have come loose again.
The worse part is u have to press a key just to check the screen status to see if it's charging cos even tho physically the connector may be tight on the phone, the contacts may not be good.
Other phone companies, with the acception of certain Moto chargers, don't have such a basic usability issue.
I have been a user of SE phones since T610, my last SE was K750.
I have gotten tired of this trivial yet easily fixed issue which has been ignored by SE engineers.
Too many times have I left my phone to charge, just to find out it stopped charging half way cos of loose connector. End up with an uncharged phone for the day, really bad stuff if u have a busy day ahead.
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shaliron
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Yeah, I know what you mean, but I've never encountered this problem myself. I can see where you're coming from and maybe SE should make a more durable charging port (I'm not sure about how often this occurs though), considering that the charing port is one of the most commonly used things on the phone. I do like the Nokia ones in this regard.
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Chrispy
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I've only ever had that problem on my nokia 3220, my k750i has never had the problem. Have you tried spraying some contact cleaner on the phone/charger contacts? I seriously dont understand how there can be a problem with the conection between charger and phone. Maybe its a broken/intermittent connection in the charge connector
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Residentevil
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They just did, from the old two prong to the new fast port that includes the charging pins.
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x2x3x2
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@ Residentevil
Yes, my issue includes that one too. The problem is with the contacts, which remains the same.
The problem is with the small surface area of the contact coupled with the fact that its spring loaded.
Look at your SE charging contacts, on the phone itself are 2 contact plates and on the charging cable there are 2 spring loaded contacts. Of which only the thin edge makes actual contact with the phone's port.
It's simple enough, intead of having plastic progs on the sides which hold the connector in place and additional spring loaded contact in between, the progs themselves should be metal and serve as the charging contact points.
Benefits are 2 fold.
Metal is stronger than plastic.
This will also ensure that when have a secure physical connection, it automatically serves as assurance that there is also good contact, u don't have to worry. This is how Nokia chargers are, not to mention they have much wider contact surface area, so accidentally nudging or bumbing the phone like when u are driving using a car charger for example.
I have used T610, K500, K750. Clean contacts? Definitely, was one of the first things i did. All have the same problem.
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masseur
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I tend to agree and have long been suggesting that SE adopt the mini-usb port. Its a more solid connection and standard across all windows mobile phones as well as some motorola and others too
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bico
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I have never experienced any kind of problems concerning the charger connectors on any Ericsson or Sony Ericsson phone.
I might be the exception that proves the rule.
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BobaFett
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@masseur k600 has got mini usb adaptor, z1010 aswell, but imo its pointless, cos with the "normal" usb cable i have the same result, so whats the real advantage of a different usb port?
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P800!
Joined: Jan 25, 2004
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Have you ever ripped out the charger connector from you phone by mistake. The SE connector on phone will almost never break. Nokia - snap, Mini USB - snap, etc, etc. A bloody good design as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah you do have a connection problem once in a while. But clean the contacts, and everything keeps working ok.
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masseur
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yeah I know about those, and the V800 I had when it first came out also had mini-USB, but these are in addition to the standard connector at the bottom and I could not charge the phone using the mini-USB, and that is the topic of this thread
you ask what is the point? well the point of this thread is suggesting a more reliable connector and Ericsson and SE connectors have been renowned for problems including oxidation and corrosion and the suggestion here is to change to something more reliable
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BobaFett
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i have to admit, that i never had problems with se ports ( i use it for chearging mainly, not that often to plug it in pc ) its really intresting, that a k600 was worth for an extra port, but k800 not. for many of u, who use usb probably more often then me, should be disturbing. i dont take care if se gonna change it or not, i just wish that the /// way will be supported ( just as in the actual se models ), that to unplug the charger, an extra move is needed ( pull up ) for secure connection.
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Sammy_boy
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I've had exactly the same problem as the original poster, and in fact have a broken charger - and I haven't misused, abused or dropped it afaik.
On of those spring-loaded prongs has gotten stuck inside the charger itself - not sure if the spring's gone or it's simply jammed, it seems to me to be very fllimsy and delicate, even more so than the old connector. I've had problems with phones with the previous connector too, T68i, T610, K700i and I think my old S700i had the problem where you had to waggle the connector to get it to charge, then as soon as you put it down it stopped, etc etc.
I've never had a problem with Nokia chargers/ports, if I have, it's been either software or something like moisture damage, I also liked the fact that often you can swap Nokia charger ports, they're not part of the motherboard so if you did have a problem simply get another one and swap it over. Also any charger from the 5110 up to present will work with pretty much any other Nokia!
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BobaFett
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inded, nokia plugs are more simple, but not that secure as /// or se imo i can charge an /// or se even upside down hanging out the window, aslong a nokia will fell at the same action
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x2x3x2
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@ P800! & BobaFett
Sorry to make this assumption n correct me if I'm wrong, but i feel that your statements seem a little biased towards SE vs Nokia.
The simple statement that Nokia charging connector are more fragile is simply dead on wrong. I have used both these brands thru experience have proved this statement wrong beyond a doubt. Also it's obvious from plain sight that the Nokia charging connector is more robust than SE. This has nothing to do with the method of removing SE connector by tilting, that is standard good usage procedures which i think everyone here knows.
Consider this, the SE charging connector relies on the dexterity and tention of the 2 plastic progs on the sides. While Nokia charging connector is using the proven design which is also used my a majority of other electrical products.
Problem 1. Plastic do not hold up very well against tention/pressure. Even after a period of a few moths of normal use, the plastic progs losed it's stiffness. This is a fact.
Problem 2. Coupled with the fact that contacts of the charging connector are only a fraction of an mm wide equates to bad contact because the smaller the surface area the more pressure is required to ensure a good stable contact which in itself due to other factors like weather the surface is clean or naturally oxidized if u live in a humid climate.
Regardless of this, the simple fact is that the charging connector design like that of Nokia's are more robust and secure, and u don't have to worry about cleaning n such.
Correct me if im wrong, but why should a user even have worry about cleaning contacts just to charge their phone in the first place? Something which most of us do every 2 or 3 days? To me it just sounds absurd that this cleaning is expected of the end user, more like what a SE tech would do while servicing a phone.
I'm not saying that the reason for bad contact is because it gets dirty, the statement I made is in response to people who claim that help.
I think it comes down to 2 points.
1. Incredibly small surface area contact on the charging pins.
2. Inadequate securing mechanism for their choice of contact design.
Both of which can be fixed by my idea in my previous post.
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x2x3x2
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@ BobaFett
Charging connector of Nokia is more secure n tighter than the SE.
I can hang my Nokia upside down as u said, wihtout any worries of it dropping.
Another reason y i think your statement is biased, is because that is simply an unreasonable thing to say.
For one thing it depends on what model of phone u are talking about.
Try do that with a SE P series phone, it will definitely drop even if u shake it a little. Same goes for example, doing that with a Nokia N70.
However to prove your own point, try taking models that are appropriate such as a SE K500 vs Nokia 6230.
Dangle both and it's a safe bet that both won't drop.
HOWEVER, the difference is I can assure u that the SE phone will not be on charging status while the Nokia will. Point made.
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