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mongoose3800
Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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I have always found the vertical grid lines (or Hashing) very annoying when looking at photo's taken with the K750. But, you know what? I reckon there may be a difference in the quality of the photo's taken by the K750 and W800. It may be related to early releases. But, I have made a very distinct point of reviewing photos taken by both the K750 and W800. And, I think I have to say that the w800 (and perhaps later K750's) may not suffer the problem as profoundly as the early K750's. Seriously, I have looked at many photo's and always been annoyed by those grid lines. But, when I review all the photo's I have kept from my W800 I find it very hard to pick the grid lines/hashing. Sure, there is still graininess in poor light and I may have deleted photo's with excessive gridlines but, the majority of what I have kept show very little evidence of those horrid grid lines. Has anyone else noticed this? Could it be that the early K750's had a different sensor to the later models which was more prone to this problem? I reckon so. |
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BobaFett
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I used both, never realised any differences.
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slugworth
Joined: Jul 19, 2006
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think ull find the only diff will be on the phones not on a PC or DVD etc both 2mp cams both the same cam i think?
only diff between W and K is the screen contrast so i've hurd |
BobaFett
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From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
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Indeed, same fone, same cams. Might be w fw is a bit advanced, but not sure if it has any effect on the pic quality
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BlacK Devil
Joined: May 04, 2006
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From: Romania
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same cams same pictures ..... |
mongoose3800
Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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It probably was firmware related. I note that a lot of my observations were of early photo's taken by K750 which would have meant early F/W. And we all know that the photo quality got better with the later F/Ws. |
shaliron
Joined: Jan 15, 2006
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I think that both seem identical. I haven't seen any difference. They are using the samera camera module though...
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jmcomms
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The W900 and W810 get rid of the blue streaking/grid effect. The W800 and K750 both suffer from this, so I suspect the camera module is different on them.
The W700 and other non-autofocus 2 megapixel cameras don't seem to have the streaks either, but the photos are incredibly noisy and lack the definition. In fact, while both are two megapixels, I don't consider the non-autofocus models (sadly including the W850) to be serious camera phones at all. They're the same as all the other cameraphones on the market, like the V3x, that boast about pixels but leave you very disappointed.
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slugworth
Joined: Jul 19, 2006
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i ave done the research...looked at both the w800i and k750i white sheets both have the same cam n screen now please stop saying its better THERE THE SAME MODUALS!
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xan K
Joined: Jun 15, 2006
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I can confirm that issue found on k750/w800's was resolved on w810 phones. so I'm not so sure if the w810 share the same cam module as k750/w800.
but back on topic, they're the same cam module, but there might some differences due to the firmwares. if you use the modded cam drivers, then the camera gets even better, especially in the video area.
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shuja91
Joined: Jun 29, 2006
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i have never seen any difference.
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jmcomms
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Can you clarify? There's a difference on the W810 and the W900 (the latter having spot metering too). Even with new firmware, the blue streaks are present on my old W800i where they aren't on the W810i. Take a dark photo and it will be noisy, but black is black.
Even if it is the same component/supplier, I wonder if the manufacturer had made changes to the spec in production? So, it may have the same part number but actually be slightly different.
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slugworth
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does it really matter?
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mongoose3800
Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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Slugworth - I do realise that both the K750/W800 have the same camera module and display. I didn't come down in the last shower and I wasn't trying to start another pointless K750/W800 quality discussion. I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. What I was trying to establish is whether the earlier K750's suffered more from streaking and if there is a chance that the later K750's and W800's had slightly revised camera modules. After all, it is common practice for manufactures to make adjustments/improvements during a products life span. It may be nothing more than a minor software or component update but they do do it. Take a look at any circuit board that may have been manufactured at different times or at different locations - Quite often you'll find slightly different components but the official specs never change.
If you think there is no difference (even the slightest) in the camera modules then ask yourself why the 5.3 camera driver has a "GET_SENSOR_VERSION= " section in it? I think it is entirely possible that the module may have been improved along the way for both. And, if you really cast a sceptical eye over photos submitted in forums you will find that some seem to suffer more than others in very similar conditions. |
PowerLee
Joined: Sep 22, 2005
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Newer K750Is do use a moddified camera.
I posted a thread about this last week, Look for K750I camera upgrade issue. |
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