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chrisnewman
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Posted: 2006-07-18 14:29
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I've got a Voda K800i and have found no lag at all when typing SMS'es compared to my K750i. I've tried to type as quick as I can and no lag, it also tries to predict the next word sometimes as well.

I know Voda personalise their firmware to death but I've always found I don't encounter many of the issues experienced by other people. E.g The background hissing on K750i etc I never experienced, also battery life poor on some releases never happened to me. It was always released a month or so after the "Normal" release via SEUS so perhaps they do more thorough testing???
pinolo77
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Posted: 2006-07-18 14:41
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@chrisnewman

I think the better performance of branded version can also be explained with the fact that has managed to create some sort of customizable areas (think about the fact that new themes also can change menu icons). This makes it possible for operators to customize in a less invasive way the looks of software, maintaining the stability of it.

I had an Orange branded K800 (up to half an hour ago ) and noticed that only small portions of the FW were actually branded. The main features were not.

So I suppose operators and manufacturers are reaching a good middle point.

I still like the original design (both graphically as well as usability-wise) far better...

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mwarner
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Posted: 2006-07-19 15:42
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Updated the first post with the initial bugs found in R1CB001.
aremaboy
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Posted: 2006-07-19 16:09
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Hmm, SE doesn't learn much from the long K700, K750/W800 history of bugs..I had better wait several months to go to get K800..
masseur
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Posted: 2006-07-19 16:10
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thing is... its easy to make generalisations like that but if you wait months... you are losing months of perfectly good (actually great) usage of the K800

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Posted: 2006-07-19 16:16
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@aremaboy

Dude, like masseur said, you'll miss out. There maybe all these bugs, but if you don't use all the features all the time, you're unlikely to actually come across them. Anyways, should release a firmware update within the next month or so, cause its getting to that point where people like us unearth the probs!
Get a K800, you won't regret it!

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conzepth
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Posted: 2006-07-19 16:21
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@ chrisnewman

"I've tried to type as quick as I can and no lag, it also tries to predict the next word sometimes as well. "

Well, I type pretty quickly, to be honest, maybe you're too slow? ;)

I don't know about any issues with T9 enabled, I'm speaking about multitapping only. It seems like the phone "hangs" a couple of milliseconds every now and then, causing it to not keep up with the multitapping on a single button. However, there are no problems when trying to reproduce the problem by pressing for example A and Z like "azazazazazazaz", it's only skipping letters/buttonpresses when pressing multiple times on the same button.

Also, a problem I've had since my k750i days, is when I recieve a message while doing some other thing, like playing around in the menues or whatever, I press the return-button, then go into the inbox via the sms-menu, write the message, send it, then hold the return-button to go straight to the "desktop"-screen, the "New message"picture sometimes pops up, even though I've already read and answered the message. Not a big deal, but I guess it's not that hard to fix for the SE-coders. ;)

Thanks for adding this problem in the first post, mwarner.
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Posted: 2006-07-19 16:22
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@mwarner

Shouldn't you have included the bug where people get a green line during video recording?

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mwarner
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Posted: 2006-07-19 16:40
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It is true that there are quite a few bugs listed on the front page. However, in every day use I would say that the K800 has the best initial firmware of any recent SE phone I have owned (i.e. T610, K700, K750 & K800). It has not actually crashed on me (unlike the K750, which crashed fairly regularly with R1A, and early T610 firmwares), has a much nicer UI than the K750, doesn't have the battery problems of the K700 and doesn't have the texting annoyances of the T610.

I think that people tend to think that the K800 is just a K750 with a better screen and a better camera. However, there are numerous more subtle improvements, e.g.

- The Media Player from the Walkman series
- Flight Mode support
- Mass Storage compatible, so you don't need drivers to access the contents of your phone (which is a massive improvement - finally you can show people your pictures without having to bring a set of drivers with you!)
- HTML compliant web browser
- RSS feed support, which is actually more useful than I would have anticipated
- Vastly improved, and much quicker, photo gallery
- Online Firmware Updates
- Much improved alarm handling (5 alarms, all of which can be reoccuring and have attached text or pictures)
- Copy and Paste functionality when writing text messages, MMS, email etc
- Icons next to your messages to show which ones you have replied to and which ones you haven't

I could go on. In my opinion the K800 is like an improved K750 with virtually all the niggles ironed out of it.

In case you hadn't guessed, i'm pretty pleased with it
masseur
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Posted: 2006-07-19 16:44
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Quote:

On 2006-07-19 16:40:02, mwarner wrote:
In case you hadn't guessed, i'm pretty pleased with it



and quite rightly too.

As our main firmware details man, you really do present the K800 in the light in which it should be seen, and that was pretty much the point of my last post though not so eloquently put!

well done, not just for the post but for all your efforts in your firmware threads
mwarner
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Posted: 2006-07-19 16:49
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Thank you very much. Very kind of you to say so Masseur
darrengf
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Posted: 2006-07-19 18:44
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I agree. The k800 is not like the K750.

And to be honest the K800 has very little faults compaired to the k750.

Se Really did go to town on this phone and welldone to them.
chrisnewman
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Posted: 2006-07-19 23:33
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@conzepth

To be objective I have asked 3 other people who are ardent texters and none of them experienced any lag! Any other Voda firmware users experienced any lag?????????
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Posted: 2006-07-20 00:12
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Althouhg I'm on O2, I gotta say, I'm a pretty fast typer, and I notice no lag with the K800, in fact, I find it a smoother experience than with the K750....

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conzepth
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Posted: 2006-07-20 00:33
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Well, I send about 3000 sms every month, so it's pretty annoying when the phone is so sluggish when it comes to multitapping.. It has come to the point where I consider writing sms only via myphoneexplorer instead of using the buttons on the phone. I'm not the type to complain about everything just for the sake of complaining, but I find that this phone (in its current state) is no good for sms-writing, atleast when compared to the brilliant k750i. Maybe my phone is faulty?
I'm on an unbranded phone in Norway, by the way.

I'll try to test some more, and report whatever I find out..

cheers.
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