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dealer3
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are these soldiers?
just wanted to remind you of these events...
Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing
Thirteen-year-old Iman Al-Hams was killed when an Israeli officer emptied his weapon into her. Israelis have been responsible for killing over 600 other Palestinian children since September 2000.
By Chris McGreal
UK Guardian
An Israeli army officer who repeatedly shot a 13-year-old Palestinian girl in Gaza dismissed a warning from another soldier that she was a child by saying he would have killed her even if she was three years old.
The officer, identified by the army only as Captain R, was charged this week with illegal use of his weapon, conduct unbecoming an officer and other relatively minor infractions after emptying all 10 bullets from his gun’s magazine into Iman al-Hams when she walked into a “security area” on the edge of Rafah refugee camp last month.
A tape recording of radio exchanges between soldiers involved in the incident, played on Israeli television, contradicts the army’s account of the events and appears to show that the captain shot the girl in cold blood.
The official account claimed that Iman was shot as she walked towards an army post with her schoolbag because soldiers feared she was carrying a bomb.
But the tape recording of the radio conversation between soldiers at the scene reveals that, from the beginning, she was identified as a child and at no point was a bomb spoken about nor was she described as a threat. Iman was also at least 100 yards from any soldier.
Instead, the tape shows that the soldiers swiftly identified her as a “girl of about 10” who was “scared to death”.
The tape also reveals that the soldiers said Iman was headed eastwards, away from the army post and back into the refugee camp, when she was shot.
Relatives mourn the killing of 13-year-old Iman Al-Hams.
At that point, Captain R took the unusual decision to leave the post in pursuit of the girl. He shot her dead and then “confirmed the kill” by emptying his magazine into her body.
The tape recording is of a three-way conversation between the army watchtower, the army post’s operations room and the captain, who was a company commander.
The soldier in the watchtower radioed his colleagues after he saw Iman: “It’s a little girl. She’s running defensively eastward.”
Operations room: “Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?”
Watchtower: “A girl of about 10, she’s behind the embankment, scared to death.”
A few minutes later, Iman is shot in the leg from one of the army posts.
The watchtower: “I think that one of the positions took her out.”
The company commander then moves in as Iman lies wounded and helpless.
Captain R: “I and another soldier ... are going in a little nearer, forward, to confirm the kill ... Receive a situation report. We fired and killed her ... I also confirmed the kill. Over.”
Witnesses described how the captain shot Iman twice in the head, walked away, turned back and fired a stream of bullets into her body. Doctors at Rafah’s hospital said she had been shot at least 17 times.
On the tape, the company commander then “clarifies” why he killed Iman: “This is commander. Anything that’s mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it’s a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over.”
The army’s original account of the killing said that the soldiers only identified Iman as a child after she was first shot. But the tape shows that they were aware just how young the small, slight girl was before any shots were fired.
The case came to light after soldiers under the command of Captain R went to an Israeli newspaper to accuse the army of covering up the circumstances of the killing.
A subsequent investigation by the officer responsible for the Gaza strip, Major General Dan Harel, concluded that the captain had “not acted unethically”.
However, the military police launched an investigation, which resulted in charges against the unit commander.
Iman’s parents have accused the army of whitewashing the affair by filing minor charges against Captain R. They want him prosecuted for murder.
Record of a shooting
Watchtower
‘It’s a little girl. She’s running defensively eastward’
Operations room
‘Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?’
Watchtower
‘A girl of about 10, she’s behind the embankment, scared to death’
Captain R (after killing the girl)
‘Anything moving in the zone, even a three-year-old, needs to be killed’
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axxxr
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Barbaric..Inhumane...Evil...these Israeli's have no respect for human life...then they wonder why the Palestinians come and blow their buses and restaurants up!
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PeterKay
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Worser than animals.
Cruel insane people.
Shame to Humanity.
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whistla
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What a muppet! We should go and shoot them for walking
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BobaFett
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sadly, some ppl on the earth us are allowed to handle without any responsibility... what would happen, if a palestinian would kill an israeli girl?
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Dart5
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On 2006-05-25 22:52:57, BobaFett wrote:
sadly, some ppl on the earth us are allowed to handle without any responsibility... what would happen, if a palestinian would kill an israeli girl?
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Not sure what your point is - they do, quite frequently.
Very sad story. |
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There seems to be a little racism going on here, a lot of statements that seem to be accusing all Israelies of being inhuman b*stards because of the actions of a few, just like the Palestinians get similar treatment from some quarters.
Just because they're percieved as being the 'evil empire' to Palestine's 'Rebel Alliance' (and vice versa as appropriate) doesn't give us carte blanche to slag the entire nation of Israel or the Palestinian people off for the actions of a mindless and bloodthirsty few on both sides.
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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carkitter
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This is the bit I can't understand:
"In the recording, a soldier in a watchtower radioed a colleague in the army post's operations room and describes Iman as "a little girl" who was "scared to death". After soldiers first opened fire, she dropped her schoolbag which was then hit by several bullets establishing that it did not contain explosive. At that point she was no longer carrying the bag and, the tape revealed, was heading away from the army post when she was shot."
Why she strayed into the no-go zone has not been mentioned. But the soldiers should have been able to establish that she was no threat
to them. A very sad story indeed.
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fatreg
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ok so they had a powertrip?
whats new?
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JK
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On 2006-05-26 11:11:03, Sammy_boy wrote:
There seems to be a little racism going on here, a lot of statements that seem to be accusing all Israelies of being inhuman b*stards because of the actions of a few, just like the Palestinians get similar treatment from some quarters.
Just because they're percieved as being the 'evil empire' to Palestine's 'Rebel Alliance' (and vice versa as appropriate) doesn't give us carte blanche to slag the entire nation of Israel or the Palestinian people off for the actions of a mindless and bloodthirsty few on both sides.
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I dont like zionists!! |
Sammy_boy
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@786 - Is that another swingeing statement? Are you calling me or all of Israel a Zionist?
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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PeterKay
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Don't think all of Israel are to blame, its the minority that cause the damage for the rest of the land. As far as i know, most Jews are against what the zionists do to the Palestinians.
A jew came on Islam channel (Sky channel 813) and told us what he thought of the conflicts, and he said we the believing Jews are totally against all these actions.
If one Muslim blows himself up for whatever reason, the rest of the Islamic world suffers, even though the action is not what the religion teaches nor what the the Muslim world likes.
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Sammy_boy
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Thank you for speaking some sense PeterKay, Let's hope some of the more hotheaded and biased posters here can see this too 
There are ALWAYS two sides to a story.
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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PeterKay
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To be honest, i would not have know this until i saw it for my self on Islam Channel, which really does open your eyes on the truth.
The Palestinians do suffer daily in silence and have not got the same armour nor tanks like the zionists.
I just hope one day Peace can be found not only in the promised land but the whole world.
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JK
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On 2006-05-26 12:09:56, Sammy_boy wrote:
@786 - Is that another swingeing statement? Are you calling me or all of Israel a Zionist?
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I didnt write that i dont like jews did I??
I know the difference! |
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Posted: 2006-05-25 21:30
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