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ajeetpv
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Posted: 2006-04-23 11:34
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hi,

i have SE k700. on the back it is written "VGA 4.1 mm 1:2.8"
and how is this different from a mega pixel camera.
can any body help me out what does it means???


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Posted: 2006-04-23 11:41
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VGA is 0.3 megapixel
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Posted: 2006-04-24 03:15
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a picture is composed of a collection of dots called pixels. pixels determine the size of the picture, and the more pixels a camera can generate, the bigger the picture will be. the k700 has a VGA camera, it stands for 0.3 megapixels, or million pixels. it is derived by multiplying the maximum height and width of the picture (640x480 = 307,200 pixels, or 0.3 mega pixels).
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Posted: 2006-04-24 05:13
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300,000 effective pixels, as in K750/W800/W810 it is 2,000,000 effective pixels O_O!!! Now for 10 megapixels it is 10,000,000!!!! sorry lol.
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Posted: 2006-04-24 14:39
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thanx,
but it also hav a extendable picture size of 1280x960.!!!
how this happens thru a VGA camera??
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Posted: 2006-04-24 14:42
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software in the phone mathematically interpolates the pixels actually taken in the picture to make more pixels where it thinks they should/would be
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Posted: 2006-04-24 16:44
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@ajeetpv: thanks for making the question. I always wanted to know that.

@masseur: thanks for replying.

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vrl29
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Posted: 2006-04-25 01:36
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as masseur have said, the 1280x960 option on the K700 is the interpolated picture. interpolation (by definition in the web) is the increase of image resolution by the addition of new pixels throughout the image, the colors of which are based on neighboring pixels. that way, you'll get a bigger picture at the expense of sacrificing quality. the camera of the K700 is designed to have a maximum output of 640x480 pixels (also known as VGA), but the 1280x960 option works like this: it captures the picture as 640x480, then resizes the picture twice its size (hence the 1280x960 pixels). that's why you may notice that in the 1280x960 mode of the K700, it takes a few seconds processing and saving the picture than in the 640x480 mode.

and as for the topic question, VGA differs from a mega pixel by picture size. as we all know by now, VGA stands for a picture that's sized at 640x480 pixels. multiply those two, and you get 307,200 pixels (or 0.3 mega pixels). mega stands for million so a mega pixel means a million pixels. for example, a camera that can generate a picture size of 1280x960 without the use of interpolation can generate 1,228,800 pixels, or 1.2 megapixels; they just round it off to make it 1.3 mega pixels. some phones like that are the S700i, W550i, and the K600. camera phones like the K750i, W800i, and the W900i can generate pictures with a size of 1632x1224 (again without interpolation), hence producing 1,997,568 pixels, or 1.9 megapixels. again, they just round it off to make it 2.0 mega pixels...

whew! it may sound too technical for some, but i hope that answers the question about pixels in camera phones...
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Posted: 2006-04-25 03:39
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Thank You vrl29.that was very informative yet easy to understand.
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Posted: 2006-04-25 04:52
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this is a short but very informative, and helpful, thread...
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Posted: 2006-04-25 05:12
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BTW, for those who don't know yet, VGA stands for Video Graphics Array - which was used to call old monitors / graphics cards that support 640 x 480 resolution (On the days of the PC-XT/AT and CGA monitors, VGA was very impressive, imagine that!). Nowadays VGA is used to call displays / cameras that use 640x480 pixels resolution.
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Posted: 2006-04-25 11:16
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thanks for the compliments... it sure feels good to be of help to others...

as for blackspot's post, that was the history of VGA (the term is actually used in old monitors to depict a display of 640x480 pixels, 640 characters in 480 lines); it was just adapted for pictures because they both had the same size...

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ajeetpv
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Posted: 2006-04-25 13:36
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thanx 2 both masseur & vrl29 for this information
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Posted: 2006-04-25 13:57
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As I understand it, the resolution is most relevant when enlarging or printing the pictures. I've printed pictures from Z600 (0.1 Mp), K700i (0.3 Mp) and V800 (1.3 Mp). When printing on 6"x4" photo paper Z6 pics were a waste of time, K7 were acceptable and V800 were very good, just lacking a little in sharpness compared to my wifes conventional 35mm film camera.

Of course things go downhill when it comes to printing on A4 paper. K7 pics look poor and V800 rate only acceptable. This is where you need a 2.0 Mp or a 3.2 Mp cameraphone.
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blackspot
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Posted: 2006-04-26 07:24
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For printing I always consider 175 dots per inch (dpi) to be a good resolution (that's when the picture appears to have a continuous tone). Printing 640 x 480 image to a 6" x 4" output would only have around 107 dpi and as @carkitter rightly described it, it's just acceptable but not really good because at this printing resolution the square pixels are still very discernable.

IMO VGA is only good up to 3.7"x2.7" pictures, 1.3MP for up to 7.3"x5.5", and so on...
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