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bigbro
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Posted: 2006-02-26 09:33
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I have a query regarding w800i ..it seems that it has only java compared to 2 java which is present on k700 and 3 java whihc is present on w900.....
now what do you call that on part of sony .....they release a new phone but not all features are new.....infact compared to k700 java is downfgraded ....which is why some 3d games e.g 3dspeedchaser wont work on w800 where as they work fine on k700.....can some one confirm this if they know abt it

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seguy
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Posted: 2006-03-04 01:15
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I was going to try it, but I can't seem to find a site to download this "3dspeedchaser" from.
Have you got a link? I'll install it and try it out on my W800i if you can give a link.
Also, I have had no issues with any 3d games on mine. (yet )
SloopJohnB
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Posted: 2006-03-04 02:32
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perhaps thats because k700 internal memory is bigger than w800īs
bigbro
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Posted: 2006-03-04 14:17
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i will try and find out the link ...i forgot tht damn sites name

but one more thing i found
there is this software called

FPC BENCH on www.getjar.com

this software tells you all detaisl about java on graphics on your phone..

i tried it on my w800i and guess what it shows colours as 65k
instead of 265k.....
can someone test it on theirs and let me know ..if they get the same info..
there is certainly some bug somewhere....
seguy
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Posted: 2006-03-05 01:20
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65k here too bro.
bigbro
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Posted: 2006-03-05 17:41
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there is anothersoftware i tested it with for my w800i ..
jbenchmark 2d and 3d ...from www.jbenchmark.com or wap.jbenchmark.com...

it also shows 65k colours for w800i ..instead of 256.....

some serious prob pals

has sony duped us ...grrrrrrrr
Lookazz
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Posted: 2006-03-05 18:08
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This is normal. All java MIDP2 benchmarks show 65K colours because java is using only 65K i think. Java speed in D/K&50i and W800i compared to K700i is about 150% faster.
bigbro
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Posted: 2006-03-05 18:20
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u bet pal rest all is fast compared to k700i...text scroling speed..aimations ..all is great ..

just was worried on the colours part....but if what you sayis true ...than...you have cleared by doubts pal ...thx......
than w800 is the way to go
cheers
ares
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Posted: 2006-03-05 19:25
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this thread is bullocks...w800 processor is faster...there are also 3d games that wonīt work on k700 and work on k750
bigbro
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Posted: 2006-03-06 07:03
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pal arez...

it is not that we are trying to criticise w800 or k750 ..or for that matter w800..
i have both w800 and k700 and love them both ...but there were certains fact stht i found out and wanted to know th truth in them ..

agreed tht processing i w800 is muhc better than k700..
but wht abt the 3d issues ..i raised i as i saw on few sites ht k700 had 2java where as w800 only java and some of my 3d games as i have mentioned work fine i k700 but wont in w800......

i had evene as the customaer care this issue .. they have no idea....

you say ..some 3d work better in your 750 than 700....tht goods...coz tht should be the way it is ..as it is supposed to be a advanced device..

can you tell me the games you are talking abt....3D are the one i am refferig to not general ..java games...
coz i saw some general work n w800 but wont o k700 so i hae verified tht ..

cheers
max_wedge
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Posted: 2006-03-06 08:22
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It's more likely a cross platform compatibility issue with the game code than a problem with either the w800 or k700.

There are hundreds of possibilities as to why a game will work on one phone and not another, most of those reasons completely unrelated to the power of the processor or amount of memory available. There were games that played on my T610 which never worked on the K700. There were also games that worked on my Moto V525 that never worked on the K700. And vice versa.

I wouldn't waste much time trying to understand it, nor would I be worrying that SE ripped us off. some games work on some phones but not others. That's pretty standard for the j2me platform.
ares
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Posted: 2006-03-06 11:00
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Some 3d games just need specific versions for k700 vs + k750/w800 thatīs all...example: bomberman 3d

Speedchaser 3d is the same, but they never made a k750 version

in the minig.co.uk forum youīll find some cases of k750 versions of games that didnīt work on k700īs
SE w880 + Iphone 4 16gb
bigbro
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Posted: 2006-03-06 14:16
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hey i agree with u guys ..probably .....the doubts were just out of curiosity..
abd right a found out that few apps work on one device but won on another...

just won understand..the manufacturer's criteria...

i trried mobiluck ..it worked on my w800 and did not on k700 so i guess..
the point u make is eactl right..

cheers to sony ..coz the phones are any ways awesome.....
wht abt ...adding symbian from nextt release
max_wedge
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Posted: 2006-03-09 02:16
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it's as arez says. It's better to design a game for a particular handset if you want to ensure it works on that hardware, otherwise it's down to luck if it works or not.
bigbro
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Posted: 2006-03-09 09:10
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ITS JUST THAT SOMEONE CUD DESIGN IT FOR US ...
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