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is se forgeting the american market? |
machuca_622
Joined: Dec 06, 2005
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From: paraguay
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i think they are forgeting the american market because the new model they have been anouncing like p990 or w950 i never read about an "a" variant witch 850 and 1900 bands. What do you think?
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mcrosser
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they seem to support the 1900 band but the 850 is really absent!! the last phone with that band is the W810 I think.
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machuca_622
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yeah but the w810 it's more like a w800 with 850, no a really new phone like w950 or p990, another think i realise it's that these two don't have edge as 3g isn't avaible in my country |
mcrosser
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mmm yeah, that's probably why they haven't launched an american version of these phones. mostly for those continets wich support all of the services. let's just hope they como up with an american phone soon, that is very functional.
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Aivar
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As I have said, I hope that SE will produce true world phone: GSM850/900/1800/1900 / 3G. All in one.
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Jah
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I understand that in the USA the networks have a very strong influence over which phones are released and therefore SE would need a firm volume order before they would invest. They are a relatively small company. Even Nokia have had to work with Sanyo to tackle the US market.
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ayk
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1st things 1st,good that u started this thread,i was planning to anyways.
yes,ever since ericsson teamed up with sony they have become very asia centric.all the new phones r either for the eu/apac.i guess se will consider phones for the americas only after cingular goes umts.
btw,no p990i for down under either.
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machuca_622
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i just can't understain why if they already make a p910a, they won't make a p990a... |
Nokialoverx
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The p910 dont have 3g but the p990 has.Thats the reason.I think the americas need to step out of 2.5g and into 3g.Anyone have any info when u planning to do that?
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machuca_622
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but the nokia n80 is 3g and have edge plus 850 band. Why se don't make a phone like that? |
ayk
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@jah,kinda strange that u say that SONYERICSSON is a ^relatively small^ company.
some parts of south america have umts networks,the n80 is for that american market.
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jcwhite_uk
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I think a lot of it is due to america using a different band to everyone else. Its a bit like us here in the UK missing out on some great cars as we drive on the left and not the right like most of the rest of the world.
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scotsboyuk
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I would have said that the difference in 2.5G frequencies was the main reason for SE not to release as many handsets for the Americas as it does for the rest of the world. There are actually a number of reasons that serve to limit SE products in the Americas.
First of all we have competing standards, GSM and CDMA (and to a lesser extent iDen). If you look at the biggest American market, the U.S., you will see that effectively the mobile market is split between CDMA and GSM. That means that someone releasing a GSM handset there isn't able to sell it to the entire mobile market. In contrast SE can release a product in Europe and be able to count the entire market as potential customers.
There is also the question of consumer demand. From what I can see there isn't the same demand in the U.S. for high-end devices as there perhaps is in Europe and parts of Asia. Why do I mention the U.S. here? It's the biggest market and as such it will have a strong influence over what SE does in the Americas. It's also worth pointing out that in some Latin and South American countries there simply might not be enough people who can realistically afford some of the more expensive handsets to make it practical to release them in those markets.
Thirdly I believe that Cingular had (or still has) a deal to only sell candybar handsets from Nokia. This would have been bad for SE because many of its handsets were candybars e.g. K700, K750, K300, K500, etc. That would have been a real bugger since SE would have been losing arguably the most powerful GSM network in the Americas for its candybar handsets.
Services are another consideration; the Americas don't have the same services as Europe or parts of Asia. 3G is relatively limited in the Americas compared with Europe and parts of Asia so SE will have less incentive to release American versions of its 3G products.
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bart
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the following phones are shipping from today: W810i, J220 (i,c,a) J230 (i,c).
the J230A has been canceled. i think what scotsboyuk said is correct. the american market isn't ready for high end phones.
the new entry level J100 will have an a version. i gues SE things there is more potential to sell the J100a then the J230a
if sales in america would rize, i think SE would launch more phones for a friends overthere. but SE only has mid level phones, and i have no idea how they are doing.
i think in the next years europe and asia will slow down and america and other emerging markets will be the new battle ground
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ayk
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@bart, w810 out already?
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