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Nokia's 3G: 6650 - The pics! |
Snilleblixt
Joined: Jul 30, 2002
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From: Singapore
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So, Nokia has launched its latest and their first 3G phone, the 6650.
Check out www.mobil.se for the latest...as always!
By the way, looks as though we're back in the early 90's now in terms of the design at least. Talktime is a mere 2 hours....not much to talk about!
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Floberg
Joined: Nov 22, 2001
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From: Sweden
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It think it sucks, both in design and features...
or have I missed something??
External antenna!!?? what´s this.... 
No expansion memory cards??
No touchscreen?
Hey, if SE would "covert" the P800 to 3G it would be the outstanding Nokia-killer all time!
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pritc_s
Joined: Jan 22, 2002
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It would look better without the antenna. The design on the back is a little strange. I do like it (but its nokia, I don't think I will buy one)
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maynard
Joined: Sep 19, 2002
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what is that bluetooth headset picture featured in the 6650 article? nokia BT headset?
http://www.mobil.se/nyheter/visa.asp?id=5666&sid=1 |
pritc_s
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That bluetooth headset thing, was discussed in a thread about a week ago, one ugly looking headset isn't it. I did not notice how fat it looks. |
Super G
Joined: Mar 07, 2002
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Floberg:
Ericsson got rid of external antennas last year only for Europe phones, long after Nokia...  At least the SE, Ericsson phones in US almost all have external antennas. And T39 is still being sold btw...
What do you mean by it sucks in features???? I don't really understand.
Anyway I'm surprised to see all these supposedly technology freaks in this forum who claim to love technology (and thereby justify their purchase of SE phones), attack hypocritally this new Nokia phone which is the world's first dual-mode GSM/WCDMA phone and which offers a LOT. I thought you liked technology (regardless of the phone brand)... or maybe you're not being honest with your opinions. But nevermind.
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Hoggi
Joined: Feb 25, 2002
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The 6650 is not out on the market for a long time! thefore you can not say that it is the first 3G phone!
Regarding the design: It really disapointed me! I hoped for a phone with bigger screen and flip like p800! What is nokia thinking????
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pritc_s
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I like the phone. I no longer buy nokia because I prefer the SE menu's (both ericsson and the SE colour menu's). The features are very good. Just, I have not had a nokia for about 2 years (the menu and bad experience's have stopped me from buying the handsets). |
Super G
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| Hoggi:The 6650 is not out on the market for a long time! thefore you can not say that it is the first 3G phone!
Regarding the design: It really disapointed me! I hoped for a phone with bigger screen and flip like p800! What is nokia thinking????
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I didn't say it's the first 3G phone. Japanese have had FOMA phones for a while now, using WCDMA.... -and external antennas- But it is still definitely the world's first commercial dual mode GSM/UMTS phone. Yes I can say it, why not? And it's been demonstrated in public. It's the very first one 
So you think 3G will bring you big touch screens without keypad or what? No, you will still have different form factors, like for today's mobile phones.
Design wise, P800 and 6650 have different shape concepts. Yeah, a large touch screen could be nice (for those who like), but not in this category. P800 is good for who likes palm device and likes to use a PDA more than making phonecall. P800 design choice is to me at least very unpractical for a phone. Now, I'm not saying it's not a nice PDA-phone, it is actually quite nice, but it's different. And I do like much more the approach of the 6650: you can use it with one hand only, you don't need to hide it in something like a palm holder to protect the touch screen etc. |
ppcrockar
Joined: Mar 04, 2002
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I think it's a huge dissappointment. I mean if people should upgrade to a 3G phone, the phone would have to provide some new great features.
It has color screen... wow.. not  By the time it will be released there will be lots of color phones. It's alot bigger than current phones. Ok so it supports GSM/W-CDMA, so what. I can not see people change say an Ericsson T68i, Nokia 7650, P800, Nokia 3510i.
It has crappy talk times, only wap 1.2.1 and it looks really ugly and old...(ok taste is different...).
Anyway the 3G phones have to be way better than this.
Actually this kind of proves the theory about Nokia trying to get people dissapointed about 3G, so they will continue using 2G (GSM) where Nokia has almost 40% of the market. If people don't upgrade to 3G phones Nokia can continue to have 40% market share. They will probably not keep that market share when all Asian manufacturers start shipping cheap 3G color phones with features that are way ahead of the Nokia ones.
Have you seen the Nokia commercials where a girl is watching a movie on her phone in the bus. That won't happen in years (to low bandwith and to expensive) and Nokia knows that. That may be another way to get people dissapointed about 3G when they can't use the phone for that.
I don't know but with the release of this phone I think that it might be true... |
Super G
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That's a good one
Getting people disappointed with 3G... Why the hell would they ever do that? Given Nokia's position on the mobile market today (nr.1), the only way to get people disappointed with 3G would actually be not to release anything at all. I really don't follow your logic. That's pure non-sense. Why would they bother spending money designing phones for something they wouldn't like to sell?? Why would Nokia even bother selling UMTS networks at all then???
C'mon. Come back on Earth where you belong 
This is a first generation of 3G phones that was released today, like GSM phones 10 years ago. They will only get better. And the penetration rate will increase gradually. Now, I agree that to make people buy this 1st phones will be challenging, unless adequate services and pricing are provided. Sonera presented some first view of their 3G service offering at least. No there are definitely great potentials, but just don't ask everything at once, be patient and one day it will come, I hope at least
Look e.g. at what has happened in the past 2 years. There's been a huge change don't you agree. MMS is now here up&running, and it only asks to bloom with support of UMTS.
But the bad thing is this STUPID british government that initiated this UMTS licences at amazing prices, killing the whole business for a few years, and bankrupting companies at the same time. Look at what has happened since UK did this thing... Operators have no money for infrastructure. Those who did network financing (e.g. Nortel, Ericsson) are in big trouble because they don't get their money in due time... |
ppcrockar
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Well.. it's just a theory that I've heard. I'm not saying that I believe that. But it's an interesting thought. The 3G phones made buy Asian developers will probbaly beat Nokia/Siemens/Sony Ericsson/Motorola both in price and features, and according to this theory Nokia is afraid that people will buy asian phones instead of there own. And since Nokia's main area are mobile phones they have to keep a big market share. And that will not be easy when the market is flooded with cheap phones from manufacturers like Sharp, Nec, LG, Panasonic etc.
Sure I agree with you that this is the first generation of 3G phones, and that they will be better all the time. But 3G phones have to be better than GSM phones if they should sell at all, and this phone is not better than the GSM phones. I mean both Nokia and Ericsson have better phones than this... and the 6650 will not be available before summer next year... that's a long time....
Yes it has happened a lot the last 2 years... maybe that is why I had expected more I guess....
Sadly no provider has MMS in Sweden yet
Yeah I know.. but the worst government is probably Germany's they had the highest prices. I heard that the total licensing sum in EU was about 100 billion euros... and in Germany alone the licenses cost about 50 billion euros. If all that money would have been spended on networks instead we would have 3G networks up and running.. and probably a much better economy... |
jb
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On 2002-09-26 18:53, ppcrockar wrote:
Well.. it's just a theory that I've heard. I'm not saying that I believe that. But it's an interesting thought. The 3G phones made buy Asian developers will probbaly beat Nokia/Siemens/Sony Ericsson/Motorola both in price and features, and according to this theory Nokia is afraid that
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I actually believe that theory. And I think it goes for 2.5G phones as well (i.e. wap/gprs). Kids can't afford 8*** or 63**; and nokia just won't stop making 3310, primarily because it's more profitable to continue making outdated phones that sell than to innovate, but it's not healthy for the industry in the long run.
On a side note; Sony Ericsson is both asian and european which would seem practical when 3G hits big time in a few years.
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total licensing sum in EU was about 100 billion euros... and in Germany alone the licenses cost about 50 billion
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Yeah. brain-tumor galore. |
sneakabeata
Joined: Aug 16, 2002
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From: Brighton
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Well I think it's ugly as sin 
Personally I wouldn't buy it on principle because:
a) It's the first phone available in a new market market (3G) meaning that it's bound to have serious s/w issues as they'll want to put it out before anyone else rather than beta test it properly (remember when everyone thought a Nokia 7110 with it's original v4.84 s/w was a good idea? The damn thing crashed everytime you tried to use the WAP browser after about 2.5 minutes, sometimes it even crashed on connection);
b) It's bound to be superceded in the very near future after it's release by other 3G phones which have had more extensive testing and are therefore more stable - and probably more functional too seeing as they'll be able to include features that Nokia will have over looked (and which will obviously get highlighted on forums such as this );
c) It says Nokia on the front. |
Rui_Costa
Joined: Feb 18, 2002
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Hey, it got an antenna!
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Posted: 2002-09-26 13:45
W950i, 
