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Can W800i be used as a Mass Storage Device? |
Farkad
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I'm thinking about buying a W800i, and one of the selling points would be the usage of it's memory card as a Mass Storage Device, meaning I can plug the USB into any computer and it would recognise the Memory Stick as a storage drive.. Without drivers.
Does the W800 work that way or do you have to install drivers in order for Windows to recognise it? |
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CrazyBus
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you must install the drivers for it to be recognised and transfer the data. If the computer had bluetooth then no installation would be needed |
Farkad
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Was that sucks. Guess I'll have to haul a Memory Stick reader with me at all times. ... Or better yet, I'll tape one of the phone and be done with it. |
DCUK7
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I'm sure you only need drivers if you want to use the Disc2Phone software. It should act as a mass storage device when you make the USB connection. |
Farkad
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You don't sound too sure, DC:UK.
Could someone confirm?
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whistla
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You will need the drivers. In xp the drivers can be automatically installed for the mass storge device.
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max_wedge
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You absolutely need the drivers. In most versions of XP that have SP2 or later, you will be able to update the drivers automatically if you have an active internet connection.
So it's not true mass storage device compliant, the way a usb drive or card reader is, where generic mass storage drivers are loaded by windows. Later versions of XP will no doubt include the drivers in the onbord driver cache.
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Cisst
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My windows XP automaticly installed my w800i as a mass storage device when i plugged it in using the usb cable. |
yorkiex
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same with me no driver was needed my pc reconised my w800i as a mass storage device when it was 1st pluged in by usb |
Stu|
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The memory stick drivers are provided on Windows and are there by default. But Windows asks to install other pieces of hardware for the handset, before it will detect the mass storage device and thus install it. If Windows detected(and sometimes it does) the memory stick(mass storage) device first then it would work fine. I think this is how the W900i works as it installs the drivers for the handset as soon as you plug it in and thereby removing the need to download the drivers and installing them manually.
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Farkad
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Ring-a-ding ding. Confusion City, here I come.
Some people are saying that as soon as you plug the W800i into your USB port it is recognised as a Mass Storage Device and they are able to copy files onto/off it with no trouble..
Edit: Of course Windows needs to install some drivers, but those are generic Windows drivers that don't require a Windows or W800i CDs nor an internet connection.
While others are saying that one needs to first install some drivers that come with the phone(not default Windows drivers) and only then the W800i will be recognised as a Mass Storage Device.
Which one is it?
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max_wedge
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well not a single one of my pc's has ever auto-installed my K750. I've always had to install drivers for it, whether by automatically downloading the driver (ie: the driver wasn't in the driver cache and windows had to connect to windows update to get it) or manually downloading the driver and pointing windows in it's direction.
That includes win98, win2000 and winxp (both SP2 and non-SP2).
Some later SP2 updates may include the driver in the cache already. Maybe if you run windows update everyday, you may have the drivers already.
Now as far as mass storage device specifications go, EVEN a Windows 2000 computer ought to be able to setup drivers for a mass storage compliant device automatically, however this IS NOT the case with the K750. So therefore, even though some later versions of windows MAY have the driver already in the driver cache, it is the SE driver, and not the generic windows mass storage driver that is used.
So let me re-iterate: The K750 and W800 ARE NOT mass storage device compliant. When you plug your phone into a PC, it will need to have either access to the internet, or to already have downloaded the K750 driver (even if it was with a windows update).
PS a device can be a mass storage device with out being Mass Storage Device compliant. Mass Storage Device compliant simply means that the device adheres to the mass storage device protocol, which the K750 doesn't. It can however still act as a mass storage device, but it needs non-generic drivers to work.
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isherdholi
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Dude,
Install the drivers that come with the phone. Then, connect the phone to the PC using the supplied USB cable.
Windows will then recognise it as a mass storage device and give it a drive letter in "My Computer".
Same for the K750 as well. |
Cisst
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Windows first detects all the other uses of the phone (such as the modem for instance) and then detects the memory stick (standard mass storage). In case of a windows XP (SP 1 or 2, doesnt matter) it will just install everything on first connection to the pc in my experience. in the case of other windows versions you do need the drivers, but so far as i know thats perfectly normal. All my usb mass storage devices needed their own drivers installed on older windows versions. W95 and 98 for sure anyway. |
max_wedge
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I'm not personally having a problem, I've got everything working fine. but I disagree with anyone who says the K750 is mass storage device compliant. YES, it does appear as a drive letter and yes you can use the device as mass storage, but In Windows 98, Windows 2000 and Windows XP you need either an internet connection or the drivers on disk to setup the mass storage.
I know because I have installed my K750 on Windows XP SP2 on three different computers, on Windows 2000 on 2 different computers, and have NEVER been able to use the mass storage on the K750 WITHOUT either installing the drivers manually or using windows update. The drivers have never just installed themselves the way MASS STORAGE DEVICE's do.
Now Bluetooth is another issue, as a bluetooth dongle WILL get installed automatically by Windows XP SP2 (native bluetooth support in SP2 and later).
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Posted: 2006-01-01 12:38
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