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Wings_Talons
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Posted: 2002-09-23 15:17
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Alcatel is really suffering. It is axing 20,000 jobs by the end of this year and this is after the 30,000 jobs that it has already axed globally leaving about 60,000 people still working for it by next year. To top it, Alcatel is struggling to get cash either from its banks or its shareholders and so we may not see new models from them. Very likely that Alcatel might be taken over from some other company soon.

Not so good news to all you guys who hold Alcatel phones
Deltayoda
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Posted: 2002-09-23 19:30
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Sheesh, these companies are falling like flies. I wonder how the world economy will look in 2 years, or even next year. Just one by one, more and more job cuts all the time.
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Posted: 2002-09-23 20:23
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alcatel will die because of limited technologie in there phones and a bit strange design.
alcatel should merge whit phillips, that way they can go one for a year of 2 longer.
With Ericsson and Nokia gone: we must keep their spirits alive and buy JOLLA or YOTA
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Posted: 2002-09-24 08:51
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Never seen anyone I know having a Alcatel fone for years now.
But they make more than fones
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jnonhoffzieg
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Posted: 2002-09-24 09:16
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So who even still makes phones that a phone buff would covet at all? Im thinking SE, Nokia, and possibly Motorola, in that order...

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wapchimp
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Posted: 2002-09-24 22:47
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alcatel do themselves no favours - would u part with your hard earned cash to buy a doorstop which looks like a mobile phone???....... I think not [addsig]
riflogic
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Posted: 2002-09-24 23:28
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Guys don't get me wrong. When I went over to Paris earlier this year for holidays, the majority of the people were using Alcatels. I was amazed!
jnonhoffzieg
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Posted: 2002-09-25 07:50
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I guess the French like expensive doorstops!!! At least when they are made in France!

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riflogic
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Posted: 2002-09-25 13:38
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Super G
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Posted: 2002-09-25 17:59
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riflogic: in France operators offer many different brands (subsidized), that's why you see these French brands quite much around like Alcatel, Trium, Sagem.

jnonhoffzieg
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Posted: 2002-09-26 09:23
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And I thought Sagem was Korean!

You actually see Alcatel quite often in Germany as well, usually the free one you get for signing up...
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jb
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Posted: 2002-09-28 00:10
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That's what happens when technology improves. One small new machine can do the same work as ten old large machines. The key is in being the first to sell the new small machines - once you've sold them no one needs new machines anymore.

Lucent, motorola, ericsson, alcatel and so on, even nokia, suffers from this. Telecommunications is changing. The industry is restructuring and the huge traditional telecom companies are facing extinction unless they are able to adapt. And that's what they are trying to do.

Life is harsh.
jb
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Posted: 2002-09-28 00:10
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Sagem is french, I think, but trium is brand name held by mitsubishi.
riflogic
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Posted: 2002-09-28 00:13
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Yeah Trium is by Mitsubishi (Matsushita)
jb
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Posted: 2002-09-28 00:41
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Matsushita is analogous to panasonic, as far as I know. Exactly how that relation works I'm not sure of. Panasonic is probably just an international brand name.
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