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Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2005-10-30 08:36
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As topic...

I'm thinking of buying a dongle for my pc to use it with W800, but I wanted to know what it can be used for! A couple of questions:

1) Which programs support it? (FMA, MyPhoneExplorer, etc.)

2) Can you copy files directly to / from the memory stick (not only the phone's memory)?

3) Which is approx. the file transfer speed over USB 2.0?

4) Is it a lot of hassle to make it work?

5) What can be done with it!! Add contacts, edit appoinments, calendar, notes, etc etc (I guess... using FMA or something)

Thanks in advance; looking forward to hear from you.

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Posted: 2005-10-30 10:09
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1, FMA, Myphoneexplorer, SE PC suite ect.

2, Yes, everything is transfered to the memory card first.

3, Not sure, faster than usb 1 though.

4, No, however if you have win xp with sp2 then you will have to re install the bt drivers to make it work properly otherwise you will be using the microsoft native bt drivers. If you get the D-Link DBT 120 dongle then this is all explained on their website.

5, Yes you can do all of this using the right applications, plus you can send and receive any file to your phone.

Hope I have helped a little
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mr_lou
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Posted: 2005-10-30 10:24
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Hy

I use my bluetooth connection for sms sending with FMA. I only have USB 1.1, and when I had my K700i it took about 30 minutes to transfer mp3 files onto the 40 mb storage - so very slow.

You can also use the bluetooth connection for e.g. business presentations, by using your mobile as a remote. For example change pages in powerpoint.
You can also use it to control Winamp, which is useful if you have your computer in another room hooked up to your stereo in the living-room. Since the T68i it's been possible to retrieve the list of mp3 files in Winamp, and control the music remotely that way.
Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2005-10-30 21:41
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@Del

What do you mean when you say "ALWAYS transfer to the mem stick first..."??

My main question is this:

I have w800, BT dongle... will I be able to copy MP3 / Video / etc as if I was using the USB cable? Will I see the folder structures of the memory stick? Will I be able to delete them? Etc etc
Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2005-11-02 01:00
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... ahhh... just checked but it was only my BUMP!
Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2005-11-04 04:21
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C'mon guys! Please tell me if it's possible as I'm really looking forward to one!


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Posted: 2005-11-04 09:07
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On 2005-10-30 21:41:33, Dan_Aykroyd wrote:
@Del

What do you mean when you say "ALWAYS transfer to the mem stick first..."??

My main question is this:

I have w800, BT dongle... will I be able to copy MP3 / Video / etc as if I was using the USB cable? Will I see the folder structures of the memory stick? Will I be able to delete them? Etc etc




Yes you will be able to copy your files as if you are using the cable, however you will only be able to see the file structure of the memory card if you are using the se pc suite or fma ect in conjunction with your bt dongle. If not then you will only sending and receiving files via bt. When you send via bt straight to your phone without using pc suite or fma, then the file gets placed into the corrrect folder for you. ie- video into the video folder, .jar into the games or apps folder.
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pinolo77
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Posted: 2005-11-04 09:45
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As said in previous posts, you will be able, with installed SonyEricsson File Manager SW, to do everything you want.
Personally I use bluetooth a lot for sync-ing contacts, meetings and so on.

For the exchange of files I use my Vaio's integrated MS reader which is much faster. If you are a heavy user I suggest you take into consideration buying a USB 2.0 multicard reader. It is surely cheap and will streamline the process of transfering music.

In my experience music is really the only thing that get too slow using BT to tranfer it. Pics are ok in terms of transfer speed via BT but Mp3 take ages.

So, it depends on what you plan to use your BT for. I am really happy to have it, as I am really unorganized and tend to hate (loose...) cables...

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Posted: 2005-11-04 18:49
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In addition to uses mentioned in above posts i found these 2 very good..

My W800i has inbuilt softwares like 1) Desktop - Your joystick works as your mouse. 2) Media player - Complete control over windowa media player.. ( I guess same softwares are present in K750i also )



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bobby_splithead2000
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Posted: 2005-11-04 19:26
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I bought a new USB Bluetooth dongle earlier this year with an aim to transfer files and contacts from phone to pc, but I discovered it also has the ability to act as the arrow keys, Start menu key and also control the mouse pointer. I was using a K700i so dont know if it works with any other handset. Pretty nifty!
Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2005-11-05 04:37
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So... let me get this straight...:

I won't be able to write files to the MEMORY STICK; only to the phone's memory? I won't be able to, put files to "MP3" folder, "Media"?/"Other" folder, Whatever folder I want? I only could 'send' them to the phone?

That'd be one of the main uses I'd give to it so.. that's why I ask so much.

Some say using FMA I'll be able to access the memory stick, some say I won't; the thing is that, even with the USB cable, I'm NOT able to access the memory stick using FMA / PhoneExplorer / ANYTHING else than the windows explorer.
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On 2005-11-05 04:37:48, Dan_Aykroyd wrote:
So... let me get this straight...:

I won't be able to write files to the MEMORY STICK; only to the phone's memory? I won't be able to, put files to "MP3" folder, "Media"?/"Other" folder, Whatever folder I want? I only could 'send' them to the phone?

That'd be one of the main uses I'd give to it so.. that's why I ask so much.

Some say using FMA I'll be able to access the memory stick, some say I won't; the thing is that, even with the USB cable, I'm NOT able to access the memory stick using FMA / PhoneExplorer / ANYTHING else than the windows explorer.



If you send a video or music file via bt just by right clicking the file and then selecting 'send to' then the file will go straight to the memory card and to the correct folder.
If you send a .jar app or game this way then it will be installed on the phones memory automaticaly due to the drm.
You can use fma or my phone explorer to do the same thing, these apps give the added bonus of being able to back up your contacts and sms ect. You can also use them to veiw your phones files or the memory card files and upload your pc files to the correct files on the phone or memory card.
Personaly I use MyPhoneExplorer for this as it is far more stable than FMA at the moment.
MyPhoneExplorer will be able to do exactly what you want via bt as long as everything is set up correctly.
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Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2005-11-09 03:58
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I'm wondering... how come that, for example, in FMA, using the data cable I CANT explore the memory stick files, but with the bluetooth I'll be able? Is that so?
johnpete
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Posted: 2005-11-09 11:44
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On 2005-11-05 04:37:48, Dan_Aykroyd wrote:
I won't be able to write files to the MEMORY STICK; only to the phone's memory? I won't be able to, put files to "MP3" folder, "Media"?/"Other" folder, Whatever folder I want? I only could 'send' them to the phone?



I think you can, actually. If you install bluetooth drivers properly, you usually get access to a folder ("My Bluetooth Places" in my case) which also contains your BT neighborhood and/or any devices you've paired. If you're phone supports OBEX File Transfer, clicking on that phone's icon and then on OBEX (refresh if you don't see it) allows you access to the phone's folders and subfolders (In the case of my K750, that includes the memory stick's folder and the phone's internal memory folder and all their respective subfolders). Just open the specific target folder you want in your phone or MS and then drag & drop the files from wherever you're getting them. (I do this everyday.)

Card reader is still faster than BT though if you're transferring large amounts.

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Some say using FMA I'll be able to access the memory stick, some say I won't; the thing is that, even with the USB cable, I'm NOT able to access the memory stick using FMA / PhoneExplorer / ANYTHING else than the windows explorer.

I'm wondering... how come that, for example, in FMA, using the data cable I CANT explore the memory stick files, but with the bluetooth I'll be able? Is that so?



Data cable should be able to do what a bluetooth connection can, in most cases. But you have to make sure you're using the right comm port (check in "Tools" if you're using FMA).
Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2005-11-10 22:46
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Thanks john!

What's the approx. transfer speed rate you get (max) while transfering files TO the phone? Thanks!
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