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Ross_Curtis
Joined: Aug 17, 2002
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Im about to buy a new phone, but have a few unanswered questions.
IS the t68i going to be superceeded when the new range come out?
If no then where will it fit into the range, compared to the T300?
As you may have guessed I quite like the T300, if the T68i is a better phone should I go down that route, even though its an older phone. Ideally the p800 would be top of my list but for the money I cant justify it right now.
Will the current snap on camera work with the T300? as I hear the price is going to drop to £50 in the next month or two.
Finally, should I get the 7650. On the other hand maybe I shouldn't mention Nokia on this forum 
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Froddan
Joined: Jan 18, 2002
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You're right about not saying too much good about Nokia here 
All those mentioned phones are good. It's more a question of what you need/want.
My rating of them would be: 1. P800 2. 7650 3. T68 4. T300
Based on technical specs and usability, and most important obectivity!
As I said all those are good, but none of them is "perfect", they are also in quite different price range. In other words, what do you need and how much are you willing to pay.
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hymie
Joined: Jan 11, 2002
Posts: 249
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Read this comparison between 7650 and T68i and think again whether the 7650 really is favourable towards the T68.
http://mobile.burn.com/review.jsp?Id=82
cheers,
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Froddan
Joined: Jan 18, 2002
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With all the respect, but who said anything about mca-20, to which this url leads? I didn't.
In an objective comparison, T68 vs 7650, the winner is 7650.
T68 wins in size, BT headset profile, 1900MHz and battery.
7650 wins all other categories, some with a smaller marginal and others in a big way.
The mp3 player, camera, etc are NOT a part of the phone (T68). Sure, you can buy them as add on, but that also makes the T68 more expensive than the 7650.
If we stick to the phone itself, then the winner is, without a doubt 7650. Objectivity is the word 
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jplacson
Joined: Apr 21, 2002
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Adding the MCA-20 does NOT make the T68i more expensive than the 7650, and it adds the main difference between the two... the camera function.
It's not fair to comapre the two since they have different target markets, unlike the 7650 and P800 that are competing for the same slice of the mobile market. |
Froddan
Joined: Jan 18, 2002
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T68 (unlocked) 4800 Skr
Mca-20 1500 Skr
7650 (unlocked) 6200 Skr
I wasn't comparing them, the article compared mca-20 and 7650, which seems odd. If you're going to compare something then surely you must compare the whole package, not just a part if it. Here's what I said earlier about comparison T68 vs 7650:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=9796&forum=2#post122542
The main differences between 7650 and T68 are: java, OS and the screen. I don't see the cam as a diff, simply because of the mca-20.
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Super G
Joined: Mar 07, 2002
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From: France
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Well, SE is sadly getting there:
http://www.forbes.com/2002/08/30/0830ericsson.html?partner=yahoo&referrer=
NEW YORK - If you're a fan of Sony-Ericsson phones, you better buy one quick--they may not be around much longer.
Kurt Hellstrom, CEO of Sweden's beleaguered wireless concern Ericsson (nasdaq: ERICY - news - people ), has thrown a temper tantrum, threatening to bail out of the company's joint venture with Japanese consumer electronics giant Sony (nyse: SNE - news - people ) if sales of mobile phones don't start picking up soon.
There was a time when Ericsson, along with Finland's Nokia (nyse: NOK - news - people ) and Schaumburg, Ill.-based Motorola (nyse: MOT - news - people ), constituted the big three of wireless handsets. While the top two are still in their slots, Sony-Ericsson has plummeted to the bottom of what's now the big five, below South Korea's Samsung and Germany's Siemens (nyse: SI - news - people ), according to research firm Instat/MDR.
Sony-Ericsson's constant mantra has been that it wants to be number one in the market for what it calls "multimedia phones." Loosely defined, that means high-end phones supporting some combination of wireless data as well as digital photos, video and gaming.
It recently raised a few eyebrows with a plan to hire models and actresses to push one of its phones in public places. Getting attention in bars and at tourist spots, the theory goes, would build up the street cred so crucial among a precious wireless demographic--young professionals in their late 20s and early 30s with a high gadget-lust quotient and cash to spend. Problem is, most of those people are out of work--or at least concerned that they will be soon--and have tightened their spending.
Ericsson is counting its pennies, too. Its losses so far this year have amounted to more than $770 million, and it slashed tens of thousands of jobs. It announced a plan to cut 20,000 jobs over two years in April--and that's on top of the 22,000 it cut in 2001.
Ericsson's American Depositary Receipts have been trading for less than a dollar since late July, and a delisting warning from Nasdaq can't be too far off. The prospect of having to pony up nearly half a billion dollars for a joint venture that doesn't seem to be getting any traction doesn't seem like a good idea.
But the partnership between Ericsson and Sony is young. The joint-venture company only did its first real product launch this year. It unveiled a slew of new phones--and many looked great. A new lineup is set to debut in the fall.
Analyst Neil Strother of Instat/MDR says part of the problem may lie in the agreements that wireless carriers have with other manufacturers, and that Hellstrom's statements aren't going to help the joint venture's chances for success.
"It takes time to build up the relationships with the carriers, and the carriers just can't cut and run on their other suppliers," he says. "After this, the carriers may see this as a signal that Sony-Ericsson may not be around for much longer, and decide to buy from someone else." |
Deltayoda
Joined: Mar 03, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Los Angeles, California
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@Froddan
Comparing the Nokia 7650 to the T68i is like comparing a Dodge RAM to a Porsche.
@Super G
I hope they do better, it will simply suck having a phone with a brandname that doesn't exist.
Infact, the line "If you're a fan of Sony-Ericsson phones, you better buy one quick--they may not be around much longer.", should be change to, "Sell your phone quickly before SonyEricsson splits up".
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Froddan
Joined: Jan 18, 2002
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On 2002-09-04 14:20, Deltayoda wrote:
@Froddan
Comparing the Nokia 7650 to the T68i is like comparing a Dodge RAM to a Porsche.
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I am NOT comparing them, as it clearly states in my previous posts.
But I wouldn't mind having both a Dodge RAM and a Porsche |
Deltayoda
Joined: Mar 03, 2002
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@Froddan
I wouldn't mind either 
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