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Itanium
Joined: Jun 13, 2005
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On 2005-07-01 12:27:52, Brady wrote:
@Hans
... a lot of overexposure that he noticed in the new firmware. It seems that you have the same, which you can notice on the white parts of the picture.
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Well in this particular picture, its just the bright sunlight causing overexposed areas. Won't blaim camera for that as the whole picture doesn't exhibit overexposure.
[EDIT] The second picture is not taken in that bright sunlight (am I right?). Notice that the dog doesn't have that well defined shadow in second as compared to first. Therefore because of more suitable light conditions, the white walls are not overexposed.
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Vexii
Joined: Jun 26, 2005
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From: Croatia
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Can anyone tell me why I always try to update i get the same software R1J002, before this i updated my k750 without having any troubles ?! R1L002 & R1N005 firmwares I cannot put into my k750 .
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silie
Joined: Jun 16, 2005
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From: philippines
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@hans
so what do you think of the two pics? i think its quality is just the same.. i think the only difference is the sun? the other pic has sunlight on it but there other has none |
Hans Gruber
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
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From: Cambridgeshire, UK.
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@Itanium
Yeah I think it was taken later in the day, I certainly wouldn't judge the K750i's camera on my shoddy camerawork 
@silie
To be perfectly honest they both seem about the same to me, the filesizes all seem to be about 460k and the quality is comparable.
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numb
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
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I dont think theres any difference in cameraquality between R1J and R1L, they both use cameraversion 4.4
The qualitydegrade came between firmware R1A and R1J when cameraverison was changed from 3.8 to 4.4
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silie
Joined: Jun 16, 2005
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From: philippines
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@numb
so u mean its a camera degrade when its version went one notch higher? |
Paulino2
Joined: Oct 13, 2002
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Both R1J and R1L has the same camera version 4.4 so shouldnt be any difference. Havent noticed any big difference from R1A either except for filesize but that just good if they have managed to decrease it look at Nokia N90 it has filesize between 250 and 450 for its 2 Mpx shoots so filesize doesent define quality. |
synagence
Joined: Aug 18, 2004
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No, filesize can mean a few things.. example...
1. Compression ratios (how much data is discarded by the image processing software) is increase thus lowering quality
2. Camera post-processing software isn't recording the max data
I know when i got my R1A phone the images were generally around 500-600Kb on max res and fine quality
When went to R1J the max filesize i ever got was around 300-400Kb
So it could be the "Fine" setting is not working or the images are just not being recorded at low compression
Wait till another version comes out...
S700i's camera is still at version 1.0 after 4 firmwares so count yourselves lucky they are doing ANYTHING with the k750i camera....although at the moment they do appear to be going backwards!
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etaab
Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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From: UK - South Yorkshire
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Tbh i think those 2 pictures are a bad example.
For a start in bright sunlight that completely white wall will overexposed on pretty much any camera.
The second picture looks less exposed simply because there was less sun. Sharpness looks pretty much fine on both pictures.
We need a comparison between R1A and R1J/R1L. 
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numb
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
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On 2005-07-01 12:47:58, silie wrote:
@numb
so u mean its a camera degrade when its version went one notch higher?
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Definetaly
Videorecording quality was degraded also at the same time, even more than photoquality, and this is easily documented by the recording bitrate which dropped from 200kbit/s to 70kbit/s
The problem with photos is that photoquality are not technically documentable like bitrate is in videos, in photos you can only judge from what you see with your eyes and shots are not taken under identical circumstances.
To really compare if theres any difference, you would need 2 phones, one with R1A firmware and one with R1J firmware, and then you would need to take the exact same picture from the same angle at the same time. Since most dont have the possibility to make such comparisons, its mostly based on judgmental feelings or experience.
I cant exactly prove theres any difference as I do not have access to any K750 still running R1A, all I can do is compare the shots I take now with shots I took with R1A firmware.
Also, to make it even more complicated, its not in all situations that the quality dropped, I still get good shots in close ups, or normal lighting situations. Its really only in bright sunlight conditions I see the difference. The phone doesnt handle bright sunlight as good with R1J (cameraversion 4.4) as it did with R1A (cameraversion 3.8 ) and now tends to overexpose bright sunlight quite often.
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Arne Anka
Joined: Nov 05, 2003
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Well, at least SE now finally admits they have had SW bugs on K750.
http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePa[....]MOB/20050701113601_MOB.dbp.asp
SE now admits that early examples of the camera phone K750 have a bug causing it to hang. Now there should be a SW update available, which fixes the problem. Anyone with K750 experiencing the problem can get a SW update at an SE service center
Per Alksten at SE says to Mobil its only the earliest phones that have had the problem and that SE has brought a solution to the problem with a new SW.
One situation where earlier examples of K750 could stop functioning is when high resolution camera pictures needed to be reformated to fit in messages to send. But the WAP browser used for internet on the phone has also had problem with hangings.
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blue8300
Joined: Sep 01, 2003
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On 2005-07-01 13:46:00, Arne Anka wrote:
Well, at least SE now finally admits they have had SW bugs on K750.
http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePa[....]MOB/20050701113601_MOB.dbp.asp
SE now admits that early examples of the camera phone K750 have a bug causing it to hang. Now there should be a SW update available, which fixes the problem. Anyone with K750 experiencing the problem can get a SW update at an SE service center
Per Alksten at SE says to Mobil its only the earliest phones that have had the problem and that SE has brought a solution to the problem with a new SW.
One situation where earlier examples of K750 could stop functioning is when high resolution camera pictures needed to be reformated to fit in messages to send. But the WAP browser used for internet on the phone has also had problem with hangings.
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Where do YOU read that they admit a SW bug???
They are just telling that some original firmware phone were having problem and that a SW will change this ! |
tamir
Joined: May 14, 2005
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guys did anyone of you used the fix option in the Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0 Starter Edition that come on the phone CD it's really amazing it fixes alot of the pics flaws and make them look more realistic you should try it if you haven't |
Arne Anka
Joined: Nov 05, 2003
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On 2005-07-01 14:14:25, blue8300 wrote:
Where do YOU read that they admit a SW bug???
They are just telling that some original firmware phone were having problem and that a SW will change this !
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You are right. They only said
SE now admits that early examples of the camera phone K750 have a bug causing it to hang.
which could as well mean a HW bug, which happen to be fixed by a SW upgrade. Never the less, they admit there is some kind of bug and from a consumer perspective it realy does not matter where it is located. What matters is that it is fixed.
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MarcoT
Joined: Jul 01, 2005
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Hi,
just flashed my K750 with SEUS. New f/w is now R1L. Had a look at the phone memory via USB and realised the mp3 folder is gone. Anyone else got the same problem? |
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Posted: 2005-07-01 12:36
