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| Bonovox Joined: Apr 13, 2008
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 | Countryside Phone?? What phone?? | 
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| mriley Joined: Oct 03, 2009
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| puestadelsol Joined: Mar 29, 2007
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 | @Raiderski Here are some pictures out of focus:
 I would add that in all cases the phone indicated that focusing is well done. I saw that during focusing process the camera gone through the right focus point, and it stopped later, and was focused to a closer distance -except the sports mode in the following cases. So when taking a picture you can see during focusing that something is wrong... only sports mode confirms that the software isn't well optimised, and the hardware should be ok.
 
 Auto mode:
 
   
 Document mode: (You can see in the lower right corner, that area is in focus -it is because is closer to the camera which focuses to a closer distance.)
 
   
 Sports mode: (I would say focusing is perfect)
 
   
 Another pictures:
 Auto mode: (You can see that the lower part of the picture -that is closer- is in focus.)
 
   
 Sports mode: (Precise focusing)
 
   
 In the previous situations I could try many times, the results were almost the same. But as I said the succes of focusing highly depends on the actual situation. So the sports mode isn't perfect but in most situations performs the best. In spite of these sometimes even in daylight is nearly impossible to take a well focused picture on a medium distance (0.5 - 3m). After the sports mode sometimes the document mode helps, but many times the only soultion is the infinite mode.
 
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| Raiderski Joined: Jul 03, 2006
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 | The c901 wants raider to own it without any doubts! but for now I want this wallpaper/theme, please
   
 puestadelsol
 ok mate, I see your problem. I will pay more attention on focus in my C901 and will try to do focus test tomorrow
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| mriley Joined: Oct 03, 2009
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On 2010-01-14 22:35:50, Raiderski wrote:
 The c901 wants raider to own it without any doubts! but for now I want this wallpaper/theme, please    
 
  I knew you would like it, I uploaded it so you can put it on your future C901   It's actually a cyber-shot .swf wallpaper that i extracted from a theme i didn't like and put it in a better one.
 So that picture is just one in a series of about 10. I was going to try and edit the .swf file and just save the one i showed but i haven't had time or the right programs to do it with.
 There are some bad pictures in the slideshow so i'll try to edit the file tomorrow then upload it, i have lots of work now.
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| mriley Joined: Oct 03, 2009
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 | @raider 
 Still as cyber-shot slideshow
 http://www.4shared.com/file/1[....]64c13148/AzureAF8-standby.html
 
 have you managed to take any more C901 pics?
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| Raiderski Joined: Jul 03, 2006
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 | mriley thanks mate, wallpaper is now in my K800
  not much pics because of pity weather - a lot of dirty snow, no sun, etc. nothing interesting around and there is no opportunity to go somewhere else 
 
 small comparision between:
 K800 (R8BF003, driver Raider v6.6.5) - first pic
 C901 (R1GA028, driver original) - second pic
 
 I used auto mode on both but sometimes for K800 I had to enable lower ISO 400 (manual) instead of ISO 640 (auto) to avoid massive noise and devastated quality
 
 street lights at night. K800 is manual ISO 400
 colors from K800 are total disaster, C901 on the other side with almost real colors
 
   
   
 flash on white surface. auto ISO 320 in K800, auto ISO 200 in C901
 once again much better colors and details from C901
 
   
   
 very bright fluorescent light
 awful colors from K800, almost perfect from C901
 
   
   
 flash in total darkness. auto ISO 320 in K800, auto ISO 200 in C901
 details from K800 are really bad because of high ISO, colors are bad too. do I have to say anything about result from C901?
   
   
   
 night street with not much light. auto ISO 640 in K800, auto ISO 400 in C901
 noise level from K800 is huge. pic from C901 is a bit too dark but without massive noise
 
   
   
 curiosity. auto ISO 250 from K800 and auto ISO 320 from C901, strange isn't it?
 nevermind, higher ISO from C901 looks better than lower ISO from K800
 
   
   
 daylight, snow
 small underexposure on both pics. too much cyan color in pic from K800 and too much red from C901
 K800 pic seems to be sharper but details are better in pic from C901 when watched at full size
 
   
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| gedas5 Joined: Mar 10, 2007
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 | @ Raiderski 
 it seems that you start loving c901
  which is great thing....and as i see in most cases it outperforms your best ever k800   
 edit: ooops i uploaded photos to wrong thread...now moved them where they belong in c901 photos thread
  
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| Raiderski Joined: Jul 03, 2006
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 | puestadelsol I checked autofocus and seems that all is well, although there were problems similar to those in K800
 
 - AF light assist sometimes disturb during AF when the camera is close to the object
 - standard problem with wrong focus on area with weak contrast or not well visible edges between colors
 
 gedas5
 ha! I love it since first day
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| gedas5 Joined: Mar 10, 2007
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 | @ Raiderski 
 glad to hear that!!!
  you successfully joined c901 lovers group  so we'll wait for some excellent shots from you with your girlfriends (if she still has it and you haven't taken it away from her  ) c901 beating your beloved k800  | 
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 | Cheers for that GREAT RAIDERSKI. Hope we got C901 camera revolution ASAP | 
| mriley Joined: Oct 03, 2009
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 | @raider 
 I'm glad you're enjoying the c901 as much as we are
   
 
 
On 2010-01-19 16:26:31, code28h4p wrote:
 Hope we got C901 camera revolution ASAP
 
 
 Me too, the best is yet to come!
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| puestadelsol Joined: Mar 29, 2007
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 | @ Raiderski What is the prg number of the software of the C901 you tryed?
 I thought if those factors you mentioned could cause the problem, but not. Sadly the focusing with AF light isn't precise either on medium distance (1-5m). And I know that focusing in some cases is done well only on the high contrasted edges, but the C901 focuses wrong sometimes in those cases too. In spite of focusing wasn't great, with K850, the K850 focuses well in those cases when C901 doesn't manage to get a well focused picture (in spite of it indicates that focusing is done).
 So there is a problem in my case. The hardware is ok -I suppose- so it should be a software bug in my case -and some others' who experinced the same problem.
 
 And I loved the C901 from the first day (15th, July), but I didn't used, I waited the release of the language pack, which contains hungarian, because I use T9 with messaging. At the end of september was changed the language pack, and the phone get R1GA028 at the same time. Then I started to use it. After few weeks I started to realise (because I didn't take to many photos at that time) that focusing doesn't perform so, as it should. Since then I'm waiting an update, or something to solve this problem, because I want to love it again as on the first days, and to be proud of it, and of its performance like of my K750 (back in 2005-2007).
 
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| titus1 Joined: Jul 27, 2008
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On 2010-01-19 11:07:30, Raiderski wrote:
puestadelsol I checked autofocus and seems that all is well, although there were problems similar to those in K800
 - AF light assist sometimes disturb during AF when the camera is close to the object
 - standard problem with wrong focus on area with weak contrast or not well visible edges between colors
gedas5 ha! I love it since first day    
 Does this mean that we'll be expecting a CAMDRIVER from you sooner?
   please oh please....
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| mriley Joined: Oct 03, 2009
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 | I don't think we will get anything until Raider gets his own c901 which could be months, until then we should be grateful for the great camera driver we have already by jigonx. Plus it would solve focus problems people talk about.   http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=191935
 @raider
 
 do you think you will try the camera driver or will your girlfriend not allow you?
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