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Shino03
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Posted: 2013-06-07 09:57
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What does Togari have besides from the water-resistance and thickness that the note 3 doesn't have? Care to explain.
nightwing369
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Posted: 2013-06-07 10:08
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Honami is going to be the best Phoablet out, at least until Summer 2014 - yes, it will actually take other mobile phone companies that long to even get near to catching up with Honami's specs, let alone come close to beating them.
Check this for the latest on the upcoming Sony phones for 2013: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AreyfktYnDHtdHN0bVFPdUFJd0ZiNzZQcjMwV1I5M0E#gid=0
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Posted: 2013-06-07 10:21
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On 2013-06-07 10:10:19, aurelius wrote:

On 2013-06-07 10:08:28, nightwing369 wrote:
Honami is going to be the best Phoablet out, at least until Summer 2014 - yes, it will actually take other mobile phone companies that long to even get near to catching up with Honami's specs, let alone come close to beating them.

do not rule out the Note 3...phablets are Samsungs strength...


Exactly, it is Sony which should worry about the Note 3, not the other way around. With the exynos not up to samsung's expecatations, the note 3 will probably use the S800. If sammie decides to go with their own exynos I will be surprised.

Apart from that, the note will have it's SPEN whereas the Sony might not even feature one or it won't be the main aspect, and this might hurt the Sony. Finally size might be the biggest factor where a 6 inch phone will be more comfortable to hold in one hand than a 6.44 inch phone.

Sony always has a way to screw things up, it's like a gift. I am not intending to diss this phone before it comes out but it is hard to keep hope sometimes.
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Posted: 2013-06-07 10:36
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Hence why I said the best Phoablet, because I wasn't talking about the best Phablet; until Summer 2014
Check this for the latest on the upcoming Sony phones for 2013: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AreyfktYnDHtdHN0bVFPdUFJd0ZiNzZQcjMwV1I5M0E#gid=0
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Posted: 2013-06-07 10:44
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No digitizer pen limits the functionality of Togari as a proper phablet, Even though it makes sense given that it's a media centric phablet, there were already apps in playstore that can take advantage of pressure sensitive pens like for example photoshop touch, besides if Sony wants intends to make a real all-in-one product then I really wonder why they would leave this nifty feature in the dark
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Posted: 2013-06-07 11:33
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There are some rumors Samsung may launch Note 3 on June 20 instead of at IFA in Sep. But if they wait until Sep then Sony has a huge chance to grab the lead, being the first with the S800!
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Posted: 2013-06-07 11:52
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Design, display and media applications will be Togari's selling point against Note 3, pretty sure once Sony launches the device Samsung will release a Note 3 spinoff with heavy focus on multimedia
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Shino03
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Posted: 2013-06-07 12:28
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On 2013-06-07 11:52:06, razec wrote:
Design, display and media applications will be Togari's selling point against Note 3, pretty sure once Sony launches the device Samsung will release a Note 3 spinoff with heavy focus on multimedia



Note 3 is rumoured to have 13mp. I think both will be par in terms of display and audio but the Note 3 will have better camera plus a stylus and probably floating touch!
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Posted: 2013-06-07 12:31
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Note 3 will outsell togari no matter what, even if the note has worst specs than togari.

They have big enough fan base and the galaxy note series is well known. Not so Sony and togari
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Posted: 2013-06-07 12:55
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On 2013-06-07 10:44:02, razec wrote:
No digitizer pen limits the functionality of Togari as a proper phablet, Even though it makes sense given that it's a media centric phablet, there were already apps in playstore that can take advantage of pressure sensitive pens like for example photoshop touch, besides if Sony wants intends to make a real all-in-one product then I really wonder why they would leave this nifty feature in the dark


you should hve properly read what unknown13x said...
Acc. to him togari will hve some kind of hover technology "maybe floating touch" which will absolutely rule out the need of stylus and digitisers maybe with some clever use + togari's screen will also be compatible with stylus and pencil so that stylus/pencil lovers hve no problem...
Acc. To all this Togari will actually hve a two in one kind of utility which even the note 3 might fail to offer...
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Posted: 2013-06-07 13:07
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Hi

I think this is a good thing if sony offers a different experience than samsung. It may be better or worse for you, wait until you see it. Personaly i want a big screen and could not care less about a pen, i always have a bag in my hand. Togari may now be what i take if honami is a deception.

I know what U is!
Sony read this thread and made a U turn!
This is Xperia Z Ubuntu!
Only problem, ubuntu is not ready...

Aurelius, just sit back, relax, enjoy even!
You really, really, don't have to worry about a thing.
nightwing369
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Posted: 2013-06-07 13:17
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On 2013-06-07 10:45:22, aurelius wrote:

On 2013-06-07 10:36:22, nightwing369 wrote:
^
Hence why I said the best Phoablet, because I wasn't talking about the best Phablet; until Summer 2014

Phoablet? Honami is a 5" phone. Don't confuse people
Phoablet : between a phone and a Phablet.
Check this for the latest on the upcoming Sony phones for 2013: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AreyfktYnDHtdHN0bVFPdUFJd0ZiNzZQcjMwV1I5M0E#gid=0
goldenface
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Posted: 2013-06-07 13:21
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On 2013-06-07 08:06:09, unknown13x wrote:
As what I have read through docs, Togari is meant to be an entertainment phone. They emphasize very little on the stylus, though it is dedicated, so that means it does come with one. All advertisements will be centered around the processor and the new screen tech as the "movie-like experience".

As for the name, I'll say XZU. You guys can figure out what the U stands for


Xperia Z Unlimited? Because, if this is an entertainment phone then they will be pushing music-unlimited and video-unlimited with it.

or

Xperia Z Ultimate

Just my thoughts
razec
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Posted: 2013-06-07 13:22
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On 2013-06-07 12:55:53, AbhiD999 wrote:
you should hve properly read what unknown13x said...
Acc. to him togari will hve some kind of hover technology "maybe floating touch" which will absolutely rule out the need of stylus and digitisers maybe with some clever use + togari's screen will also be compatible with stylus and pencil so that stylus/pencil lovers hve no problem...
Acc. To all this Togari will actually hve a two in one kind of utility which even the note 3 might fail to offer...


I think you're downplaying the precision advantage of a digitizer pen too much, those pens are pressure sensitive aside from being hover touch capable, having control over the depth of your handwriting makes writing on a touchscreen itself so natural, I suggest you try using Photoshop touch on a galaxy note with a true digitizer pen and an iPad with a wacom bamboo stylus to see the difference between pens with and without the pressure sensitivity unless Togari's screen tech would make some work on it I don't think it'll offer as much comfort as it would be on note 3 or even Duo 11/13.
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Rockarel
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Posted: 2013-06-07 13:48
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Hi all, new to the forum but have been following this thread for the previous 100 or so pages over the past couple of days - needless to say I'm insanely excited for the Honami!!

As for the Togari, there's a rumor that Sony is working with a company called Neonode, a manufacturer of touch screen sensors. The benefit of their sensors is that they're optical input rather than capacitive. The benefits also include a faster polling rate so writing and drawing looks more natural. There are a bunch of other tricks this could enable, such as depth sensing, ability to use nonstandard objects, as previously mentioned (pencil), and I'm sure much more.

Don't want to label these as true rumors, but the news about these two companies working together and the list of Togari specs makes me think they're connected.

Anyway, looking forward to see more upcoming info, BRING ON THE HONAMI!!

-Rockarel
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