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razec
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On 2008-02-17 04:11:25, max_wedge wrote: The question is, why can't SE give it's UIQ platforms such good processor support 
this could be the reason:
-CPU/GPUs utilizable for Symbian devices are mainly freescale, nexperia, TI-OMAP with PowerVR SGX and ATI 2300(GPU).
-CPUs/GPUs utilizable for WM devices were TI-OMAP, Qualcomm, intel, samsung, PowerVR, ATI and Nvidia. 
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mario2004
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On 2008-02-17 00:15:33, Mizzle wrote:
Trust me, they've done lots and lots of tests with the hardware. The public has only been allowed to see a percentage of the phone, and only parts of the XPERIA panels.
'Trust me, . . ' - You must be jocking 
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tonchy
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@mizzle
Is X1 gonna ship with with WM 7? can you point to where you got that information please?
From what we saw so far:
- SE representatives said WM6 on the show.
- Leaked pictures said WM 6.1
But from there, to jump to WM7 is a bit pretentious, isn't it? please can mizzle or anyone with some information on the subject clarify this? thanks |
deasine
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On 2008-02-17 04:11:25, max_wedge wrote:
WM7 is too far away for X1 (middle next year).
It's a myth imho that WM has to be unstable. Stability comes down to how well the os is integrated with hardware and branding. For instance I've found HP WM mobiles to be much more stable than XDA WM mobiles. HP is a company with a reputation for good quality hardware. So is SE.
Personally I would rate a good example of a WM mobile just as stable as a good example of UIQ or s60.
In cases of UIQ platforms with stability problems this is usually down to SE not giving enough CPU power to the product. The X1 has a 528MHz cpu and 128MB RAM, I expect it will run more than adequately with WM6. The question is, why can't SE give it's UIQ platforms such good processor support
Wow really... I haven't used any Windows Mobile phone so my knowledge is pretty hazy in that field - but I didn't know stability depended on the brand. |
Mizzle
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Mario,
Why on earth would I be joking? 
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No, it'll be WM 6.x - preferably 6.1.
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NightBlade
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On 2008-02-17 10:04:34, Mizzle wrote:
Mario,
Why on earth would I be joking?
He means that we couldn't do else but trust you.
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I trust you
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Tigershark42
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I hope X1 will be released with WM7 preinstalled once that comes out. TBH I wouldn't buy the X1 with WM6.1 unless I knew that I could have WM7 on it once available because it looks many times more useable than WM6.1 does. It shouldnt be a problem in my view as the X1 will be available around September/October (at least I think thats what is being said) and WM7 devices are said to be shipping late 2008/early2009. Given those approximations, and how close those dates could potentially be, it would be an appalling contingency plan if the X1 could not upgrade to the new WM (I dont know why they dont just release it slightly later with WM7 installed and thats it). But as far as we know at the moment its WM6.1 .
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deasine
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On 2008-02-17 19:23:28, Tigershark42 wrote:
I hope X1 will be released with WM7 preinstalled once that comes out. TBH I wouldn't buy the X1 with WM6.1 unless I knew that I could have WM7 on it once available because it looks many times more useable than WM6.1 does. It shouldnt be a problem in my view as the X1 will be available around September/October (at least I think thats what is being said) and WM7 devices are said to be shipping late 2008/early2009. Given those approximations, and how close those dates could potentially be, it would be an appalling contingency plan if the X1 could not upgrade to the new WM (I dont know why they dont just release it slightly later with WM7 installed and thats it). But as far as we know at the moment its WM6.1 .
[ This Message was edited by: Tigershark42 on 2008-02-17 18:30 ]
Well remember the X1 is suppoesd to have the Xperia Sony Ericsson User Interface - not windows. The panel system seemed very usable to me.
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Tigershark42
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True, but its doubtful that the Xperia UI will COMPLETELY overlay the WM interface. If it does, then there shouldnt be a need for an upgrade to the OS, as the interface is the major change in WM7 (if you exclude the rumoured gesture control, and programme improvements, which is an obvious development). |
Astral1
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Reading between the lines, i believe we're gonna get a 6.5. maybe with some of 7's feature list.
On one of the presentation vids, the guy showing off the x1 deffinately says youll be able to use hand gestures with the phone.
Mizzle is almost, but not quite saying this (6.5), but is obviously in a being watched position.
If it was 6.1 why wont they release it earlier? it is known to be on the phone, and if SE have tested the hardware, then it must be in a pretty solid state. The OS, and the hardware, that is.
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Tigershark42
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Good point. And I hope you are right. But weren't those leaked photos evidence that it will be 6.1? Eldar said '6.5'. Maybe what is meant by those in the know is that 6.1 doesnt offer too much in the way of improvement, but the SE UI together with this makes for a much better all round package. I remember Mizzle saying that not all of the hardware had been shown. This does imply gesture control or something of the like. Conversely, WM6.1 is only meant to offer slight tweaks to WM6, if rumours are anything to go by. This accounts for changes in the UI from a visual, navigation and feature point of view but the introduction of something like gesture control seems abit much as a 'tweak'. I sooooo hope I am wrong though 
Speaking of OSs, what of the UIQ4? Is there any news about that (eg confirmation that it is being developed, or that it will be announced this year)?
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clauf
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Don't know if some of you have saw this video yet, but somehow InfoSync world was able to have the X1 on their hands at the 3GSM Conference (when other phone reviewers couldn't get their hands on it because only Sony Ericsson staff could use it)
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/9017.html
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famous12
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On 2008-02-18 01:42:33, clauf wrote:
Don't know if some of you have saw this video yet, but somehow InfoSync world was able to have the X1 on their hands at the 3GSM Conference (when other phone reviewers couldn't get their hands on it because only Sony Ericsson staff could use it)
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/9017.html
if that guy was really from infosync then he could have dug deeper into the phone...im sure that guy is from SE and the audio is from infosync. |
Wild Child
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I'll be getting it when it is available as well as the c902. That's all I can say...lol
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