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P990 Firmware Thread | latest: ph:R7A001, org:R3B01, bt:R4F01 |
spine6
Joined: Aug 07, 2005
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guys remember what happen to the p800?? Same thing happening to the p990i but as what we saw the p800 is fixed and same thing will happen with p990i.... |
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Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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@Spine6
Whilst I admire you optimism but on the earlier P series phones it was just bugs on the P990 it it not just bugs but the actual implementation of both the new hardware and OS and whilst i agree firmware upgrades will help i honestly do not believe they can cure any where near enough to resolve most of the issues. How ever much people want this to be possible i just think it is not going to be possible or happen.
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AbuBasim
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@Dogmann
I'm looking forward to you having to eat your words. If you're right then I guess I have to go back to negotiations with my wife for yet another phone/PDA purchase. I bought my P990i two weeks ago (upgrade from i-mate JAMin) and am fairly satisified, but hope to see low memory, KERN_EXEC program crashes, and camera auto-focus issues sorted out in the coming firmware update(s). The software quality issues in the P990i are similar to what I saw in the early releases of Windows Mobile 5.0 on my JAMin. |
Bandit
Joined: Oct 06, 2006
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From: Toronto
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I'm w/ Dogmann on this.
The P990 has the potential to becoming MUCH better. But, UIQ3 inherently has memory leakage problems. All the firmware upgrades and software adjustments (ie, S.man.Pro) will help to make the phone more stable, but I doubt that they'll completely be able to fix the memory leak.
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mykkk
Joined: Dec 22, 2004
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From: London, UK
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Can we only update this thread if there is a new firmware update please?
I really don't give a sh*t about whether some people think bugs will be fixed or not. |
koto
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
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Fortunately I don't wait a new frimware at all. Right now I am in deep peace using my P990. To my extreme surprise not one bug I noticed except 'all mighty' RAM problem which I very successfully solve using swiss manager. Those marvellous features don't stop fascinating me day by day. We all know how brilliant P910 was and still is. Don't like to repeat myself but it would be unbearably for me to come back to it after using P990. Eventually this RAM problem will be solved in next P, or whatever you call it generation if not in this. Whatever people my say the ultimate-smarth-phone vision is much closer with P990 and I know I am enjoying that big step forward fully to my heart's satisfaction.
Sorry mykk, you are absolutely right.
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AbuBasim
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On 2006-11-20 23:20:01, mykkk wrote:
Can we only update this thread if there is a new firmware update please?
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The firmware threads tend to grow quite large. Look at the K750 / W800 Firmware Overview (449 pages and counting!). The subject heading of this thread shows the current level so no need for you to read through all the posts. |
siandy
Joined: Nov 20, 2006
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think P990i is great phone ever made till now, not even PDA phones have close to this one. Just the firmware to make is more stable and efficient is needed.
"XIP (eXecute In Place) technology used in all pre-Symbian OS 9.x phones allowed system processes to be run directly from ROM memory, without having to be copied to RAM first. NAND-flash memory used in P990i (and all Symbian OS 9.x devices) is faster and cheaper, but it doesn't support execution "in place" so all system software has to be loaded to RAM. Because of this, even though the P990i has 64 MB of operating (RAM) memory for program execution (twice more than P910 and 4 times more than P900 and P800), only ~15.5 MB is free. It's almost 2,5 times more than in P900 (which only had 6-7 MB RAM free) but about 6 MB less than in P990's predecessor - the P910. With software properly optimized for smartphones' limited resources this reduced RAM size doesn't cause any serious problems and one can still run many (depending on size, even up to 10 or 15) applications simultaneously. However, very complex or unoptimized software may allocate a lot of free RAM and make it impossible to launch other applications at the same time. For example, running certain 3rd party software doesn't let the Messaging application run in the background and continue scheduled email downloads. It seems that developers writing software for UIQ 3 will have to learn how to use operating memory more efficiently so that not only their own software is able to run but also that it doesn't prevent other programs from running in the background. Some work to be done is also on Sony Ericsson side because current memory management is unefficient, if not just buggy"
Think this will explain a lot. Hope SE would know how to manage more eficient RAM usage for next firmware. Cheerrrrsss!!! |
tonyitalian
Joined: Sep 02, 2004
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From: Earth
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i agree with mykkk!
SE Rulez! |
Johnex
Joined: Nov 26, 2002
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From: Stockholm/Sweden
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All firmware talk can stay here, no need for an announcement thread and a chat thread. I will always update the title of the topic as soon as a new version is confirmed and on my phone, which usually is the same day it is released. |
macjasp
Joined: Oct 06, 2004
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From: Sunderland, UK
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over on the my-sybmian thread for this very same subject someone very close to SE has confirmed there IS a week 48 major update for P990i
only rumour and i'll take it with a pinch of salt but people over on that forum tend to think the guy speaks the truth! |
anonymuser
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On 2006-11-20 23:00:52, Bandit wrote:
The P990 has the potential to becoming MUCH better. But, UIQ3 inherently has memory leakage problems. All the firmware upgrades and software adjustments (ie, S.man.Pro) will help to make the phone more stable, but I doubt that they'll completely be able to fix the memory leak. |
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If you don't mind me saying, that's a bit of a silly thing to say - it's as if you're implying that they just used "leaky" memory chips in these phones and nothing will be able to plug the little tiny holes... in reality, the cause of this (and indeed any) memory leak is bugs in the software, meaning patches for the software can and will fix them. There's no "inherent" issue in UIQ3, just a collection of bugs to be swatted - same as in UIQ2 before it. |
koto
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@Boinng
Very interesting post mate. |
Guy H
Joined: Feb 19, 2004
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They should not be releasing a handset that needs this many bugs swatting.... simple as that! |
anonymuser
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@Guy H - no, they absolutely should not, I agree - all I'm saying is it's not unheard of for this to happen, and it's not insurmountable either. A couple of software updates down the line and we'll wondering what the fuss was all about..
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