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Xajel
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On 2016-06-16 03:28:35, Shino03 wrote:
There is no way Sony will be competitive when it comes to marketshare right now especially considering how commoditized the smartphone world had become.
This high pricing strategy is the only way to be competitive, the apple way. Gone are the days that phone manufacturers get a lot of their profit in numbers since there are too many competitors to grab every costumers away.
I totally don't agree with you...
The Apple way of doing things is because they have a strong brand and they're the only player in their market, I mean there's no other iOS maker... so they can do what ever as long as their brand is strong and peoples wants their products ( iOS and macOS )... it's either Apple and pay a lot or not...
Sony doesn't have such luxury... there's a lot of other Android makers, and there's a lot of options, and also wide price range... They wanted to concentrate on Multimedia as this is where Sony is better known in but they had a tough competition, and all their efforts were just not enough.. there's something wrong with Sony that They don't complete the whole recipe... they build a great phone, but it must lack something or two... and they build a great range but Software limitation stops them... and their aggressive pricing strategy also makes every one does not think about them because, well there's too many Android devices to choose from...
People buying iPhone not because it's perfect in every corner, but because they want iOS and it's their only option...
So why do think people will buy Xperia if they can get the almost the same experience with lower price ?
And Sony's strategy is just strange, just forget about flagships, and release something high-end with the same price as a flagship.. and release a mid-range with a high-end price !!
I know Sony's phone are very good in performance, but 95% of the world doesn't know this... they're not willing to pay any premium over less-spec'ed device specially that Sony is still - yes still - known with slow updates, having too many phones that their 6 months old flagship is not a flagship anymore and you must accept the fact that it won't get the latest software quickly just because Sony already have a new flagship... some might say this was long time ago.. yes I know.. but 95% of other peoples doesn't...
Building a reputation is hard...
Negatively impacting a reputation is very easy...
Re Building a falling reputation is very very very hard... and Sony's problem this time is that they're still negatively impacting their reputation with their X series segmentation and pricing... have a look at the reviews around and see your self...
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nikola1970
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^ Agreed.
I think there is no hope for Sony smartphones anymore as Sony can't differentiate anymore in any aspect. They could (at least i think so) differentiate with cameras but they didn't take advantage and now they are done for good.
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josephnero
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Sadly the 2half flagship might be Sony's last chance(is there even a 2half flagship?) I hope the price won't be like X performance and X |
nikola1970
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Yup, if they fail to deliver some impressive stuff as a next flagship, and it's gonna be just "okay" and average flagship, they can shutdown mobile division and focus on other stuff. or maybe they are alright with that to continue to burn money? 
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josephnero
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it seems they already gave up. I would fire the managers and replace them with playstation guyz
All sony fans ask is a good phone for a fair price.I know that I do at very least. I don't want a super fictional super duper phone. just a Z6 with top shelf stuff and FAIR price. 3GB RAM in Xperformance is really fail. Oneplus three has 6GB for half the price
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badassmam
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6GB of RAM does nothing for the OnePlus3, I don't see it blitzing any other flagship. Optimisation goes much further than pointlessly upping the specs, Xperia X is proof of that.
Its either Sony make fewer phones to save money and sell them high to get maximum profit or sell cheap and hope to sell loads. They can't sell loads, not going to happen so their strategy is alright for them. Price will go down as it always does.
I really miss my Z1 compact, using a Z3+ and it sucks in comparison. I really want a new Compact at IFA. |
josephnero
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@badassmam
I'm completely aware of that. I wouldn't trade my Z5 for anything on market right now but Average joe(lol) goes for cheaper plus better(specs) |
badassmam
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Honestly, I just want Sony to make a profit so that their mobile business continues. I don't care if they have a tiny market share as long as they survive, not interested in bragging rights or anything like that. I've only been able to use Sony and HTC phones happily, never had a Samsung for more than a week apart from the Note 4.
OnePlus3 has a budget price maybe because SD820 will be replaced by SD823 soon and despite the high specs, I can guarantee that it'll perform like a budget phone because they would have to cut costs somewhere. The Xperia X is a great all round experience, very well optimised and I bet it'll top DXO. Clove UK has S7 Edge at £598.80, X Performance at £549 and X at £459. Is that really unreasonable considering its as fast as the S7 in real world tests? After using the Z3+ I feel that the top end SD processors are poor, even S7 users have heat issues despite having the heat pipes and all, check on XDA. That makes the X a very compelling choice, I love the idea of an optimised user experience over raw power. For power users and d**k wavers there is the X Performance which will sell few and will forever be pitted against the other flagships, people will whinge, trolls will emerge and so on.
The Xperia X to me is a reincarnation of the Compact line, not exactly how I wanted it beacuase I want water resistance but it performs brilliantly in all departments and is in a mid to high end niche that performs as well as the flagships, just as the Compact did. |
josephnero
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Honestly, I just want Sony to make a profit so that their mobile business continues.
exacty my thoughts.I just want Z6 to replace my Z5. and Z7 lol |
Aycaramba
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Esato was founded in the year 2001 and was mainly targeted at Sony Ericsson mobile phone users. We started with a couple of services offering free ringtones, grayscale logos for the Ericsson T39 and R520 models. We have expanded the service to include free color backgrounds for over 50 mobile phone models. Other popular services are the discussion forum for anyone interested in topics about mobile phones and accessories. Even if the focus was targeted at Sony Ericsson owners, we now have separate forums for owners of other brands. The most popular sections are the News, Blog, discussion forum, Free themes, free color backgrounds and a service where users can upload images from a PC and download a converted image down to their mobile phone.
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badassmam
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On 2016-06-17 15:25:59, Aycaramba wrote:
On 2016-06-16 14:42:21, badassmam wrote:
The Xperia X is a great all round experience, very well optimised and I bet it'll top DXO.
For a company that makes the camera sensors in so many excellent smartphones, Sony is having a tough time with its own cameras. The one in the Xperia X is mediocre at best. - Most of the reviewers' experience with Xperia X.
So, whichever planet you're on right now, please get back to earth on your flying pig.
Xperia X according to most reviews has a better camera than the Z5 so it should get a better score which takes it almost on top. The question is if you trust DXO or not? I bet my flying pig that I'm correct. |
Aycaramba
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Esato was founded in the year 2001 and was mainly targeted at Sony Ericsson mobile phone users. We started with a couple of services offering free ringtones, grayscale logos for the Ericsson T39 and R520 models. We have expanded the service to include free color backgrounds for over 50 mobile phone models. Other popular services are the discussion forum for anyone interested in topics about mobile phones and accessories. Even if the focus was targeted at Sony Ericsson owners, we now have separate forums for owners of other brands. The most popular sections are the News, Blog, discussion forum, Free themes, free color backgrounds and a service where users can upload images from a PC and download a converted image down to their mobile phone.
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hello1000
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On 2016-06-18 22:15:31, Aycaramba wrote:
Xperia X according to most reviews has a better camera than the Z5 so it should get a better score which takes it almost on top. The question is if you trust DXO or not? I bet my flying pig that I'm correct.
DxOMark hailed the Xperia Z5 as the best smartphone shooter at the time of its release, when in fact it can't hold a candle to the likes of Galaxy S6, let alone Galaxy S7. That itself makes the site a joke and I highly doubt if anyone takes their reviews seriously apart from Sony fanboys.
I've checked the samples from Xperia X, and while it takes good pictures in perfect day light, the noise towards the edges tends to be too heavy and there's a huge loss of detail. In low light, it just sucks donkey balls.
People like you ( SAMSUCK) always take one side never people like you ( SHAMESUCK) complain about over sharping and to much colors and also noise problems.
SAMSUCK camera's always over react by people like you ( SHAMESUCK FANBOYS) complain about Sony and have the nerve to call Sony fanboys.
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supercoolman
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I see good individual photographers giving positive reviews on XPERIA camera with their details and examples to demonstrate impressive results
I see bunch of people here giving lots of negative on XPERIA camera with nothing or only content from other people's review. nothing of their own as if they are just the relay dolls without reliable source
clearly shows what we can trust. no point in arguing |
Aycaramba
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Esato was founded in the year 2001 and was mainly targeted at Sony Ericsson mobile phone users. We started with a couple of services offering free ringtones, grayscale logos for the Ericsson T39 and R520 models. We have expanded the service to include free color backgrounds for over 50 mobile phone models. Other popular services are the discussion forum for anyone interested in topics about mobile phones and accessories. Even if the focus was targeted at Sony Ericsson owners, we now have separate forums for owners of other brands. The most popular sections are the News, Blog, discussion forum, Free themes, free color backgrounds and a service where users can upload images from a PC and download a converted image down to their mobile phone.
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