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domipost
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On 2009-01-30 13:52:47, miguel82 wrote:
SE instead of making phones that look exacly like a digital camara should actually make phones that can take photos like one! Not that the other brands like nokia or samsung are better (they are not but at least i think they dont do this). The point is even a 3or4mp with 5 years old cybershoot camara takes much much better photos than all 5mp and even 8mp phones. I dont want a phone with a camara look, all that smile, blinking etc detection , cybershoot , carl zeiss or what so ever branding crap... It makes people believe that take better quality photos than the others but is all the same thing. The only thing i have to admit that is very useful is the geotagging(at least on nokia works very well integrated with nokia maps). My wish is that someday they put some 4 or 5mp cybershoot real digital camara lens in their phones... a think it will make all phone users happy 
Motorola ZN5 takes really quality pics...
And C905 and INNOV8 aren't bad either. I compared C905 with a Samsung digicam (i8) and it did a good job. You can check the pics here: http://www.allaboutphones.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=4052#hfd7 |
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RedSpiDer
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SE UI were always one of the best, great looking and fully customizable with a little know how  .
Hope to see some cool phones at MWC, but if you say that A300 will make a public appearance at the begining of 09 then probably most of SE phones from the MWC will probably be non-smartphones ,I personally hoped to see some cool high-end smartphones from SE but could leave with a nice non-os phone . |
puestadelsol
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On 2009-01-30 13:52:47, miguel82 wrote:
SE instead of making phones that look exacly like a digital camara should actually make phones that can take photos like one! Not that the other brands like nokia or samsung are better (they are not but at least i think they dont do this). The point is even a 3or4mp with 5 years old cybershoot camara takes much much better photos than all 5mp and even 8mp phones. I dont want a phone with a camara look, all that smile, blinking etc detection , cybershoot , carl zeiss or what so ever branding crap... It makes people believe that take better quality photos than the others but is all the same thing. The only thing i have to admit that is very useful is the geotagging(at least on nokia works very well integrated with nokia maps). My wish is that someday they put some 4 or 5mp cybershoot real digital camara lens in their phones... a think it will make all phone users happy
I totally agree with you... in addition I am waiting the vivid colors known from Sony cameras too. |
badassmam
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How much better can A3 be than A2? There is the limit of non-touch interface to start and also, you couldn't add many more buttons so I think it will be more eye candy than anything else.
I'm more interested in an Xperia without WinMo or a nice new WinMo. I really need a smartphone for work or even better, a Walkman smartphone (proper W960 successor).
I've heard good things are coming from  but, even better from Nokia and HTC. The version of Symbian still sounds the best to me i.e. like UIQ so its something i'm used to. Lets hope there are quick releases and drool inducing innovation. |
clauf
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On 2009-01-30 17:44:20, puestadelsol wrote:
On 2009-01-30 13:52:47, miguel82 wrote:
SE instead of making phones that look exacly like a digital camara should actually make phones that can take photos like one! Not that the other brands like nokia or samsung are better (they are not but at least i think they dont do this). The point is even a 3or4mp with 5 years old cybershoot camara takes much much better photos than all 5mp and even 8mp phones. I dont want a phone with a camara look, all that smile, blinking etc detection , cybershoot , carl zeiss or what so ever branding crap... It makes people believe that take better quality photos than the others but is all the same thing. The only thing i have to admit that is very useful is the geotagging(at least on nokia works very well integrated with nokia maps). My wish is that someday they put some 4 or 5mp cybershoot real digital camara lens in their phones... a think it will make all phone users happy
I totally agree with you... in addition I am waiting the vivid colors known from Sony cameras too.
Both of you haven't seen pictures from the SO905iCS. I believed it too had the Alpha camera sensors too. Again, Japanese had the best. |
shaoran
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Clauf...i have been using SO905iCS n believe me...its not that good...but actually it have a very good macro shot...in outdoor, my old K750 + mxe60 still can make me very proud.... |
AbuBasim
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C905 gives better color but the INNOV8 handles noise better.
On 2009-01-31 05:37:50, clauf wrote:
Both of you haven't seen pictures from the SO905iCS. I believed it too had the Alpha camera sensors too. Again, Japanese had the best.
There are samples available in the Gallery and to me these look very similar to K850 or C902 shots. I think the problem is that the sensor in the SO905iCS is too small to make any real difference in photo quality. EXMOR makes more sense at the sizes used in dSLR cameras.
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gtr83
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AbuBasim wrote:
C905 gives better color but the INNOV8 handles noise better.
Can't agree more. But INNOV8's price is way outta my budget... 
Nokia 3520 > 6600 > W800i > W890i > C702 > C905 > BB 9500 > Samsung INNOV8 |
clauf
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On 2009-01-31 07:34:01, shaoran wrote:
Clauf...i have been using SO905iCS n believe me...its not that good...but actually it have a very good macro shot...in outdoor, my old K750 + mxe60 still can make me very proud....
I had it for a week or two and my shots came out pretty nice. But then again yeah I've been doing a lot of macro.
The optical zoom makes life much easier too =P |
Zuckabaecka
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On 2009-01-31 01:57:10, badassmam wrote:
How much better can A3 be than A2? There is the limit of non-touch interface to start and also, you couldn't add many more buttons so I think it will be more eye candy than anything else.
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The interface is good enough but the visuals are erverything but not eye candy. That's what I mainly expect from A300 -> Style & Customize-functions.
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domipost
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On 2009-01-31 08:41:53, AbuBasim wrote:
C905 gives better color but the INNOV8 handles noise better.
On 2009-01-31 05:37:50, clauf wrote:
Both of you haven't seen pictures from the SO905iCS. I believed it too had the Alpha camera sensors too. Again, Japanese had the best.
There are samples available in the Gallery and to me these look very similar to K850 or C902 shots. I think the problem is that the sensor in the SO905iCS is too small to make any real difference in photo quality. EXMOR makes more sense at the sizes used in dSLR cameras.
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2009-01-31 07:47 ]
It isn't INNOV8 which I compared with C905, it's Samsung i8 (digicam, not phone) |
AbuBasim
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On 2009-01-31 13:04:14, domipost wrote:
It isn't INNOV8 which I compared with C905, it's Samsung i8 (digicam, not phone)
That would explain why the Samsung photos were *extra* noise-free
Still, my impression of the INNOV8 is the same. It handles noise better while the C905 is better on color and saturation.
For example in this image from PhoneArena's Q4 2008 phone camera review. Notice how the color and saturation in C905 crop is about the same as in the SD870 crop (SD870 = Canon SD870 digital camera), while the noise in the INNOV8 crop is about the same as the SD870's.
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domipost
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That's true, but as a reaction to "The point is even a 3or4mp with 5 years old cybershoot camara takes much much better photos than all 5mp and even 8mp phones" it doesn't make any sense to compare two camphones |
moogoo
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how bout we stay on topic guys...
none of those phones are rumors...
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