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RyaN
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Posted: 2008-11-04 10:41
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@bav... yeah it's pretty annoying, but i guess if it's a forum related prob there's not much that can be done
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Posted: 2008-11-04 10:43
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are you using full html esato? (i.e. www.esato.com)

I still use mobile esato on the iphone (mobile.esato.com)

I've also never had safari crash either
RyaN
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Posted: 2008-11-04 11:03
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Yeah using the full html version. I will probably try using the mobile.esato.com link next time! Kinda forgotten about that, since the last time i had a 'normal' phone!
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Posted: 2008-11-04 11:09
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I boguht iChess on the weekend and honeestly its the best game I have ever played on any phone haha Such a simple game but so thrilling!!! Im still new to chess but I beat the computer for the first time this morning on the train into work.
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Posted: 2008-11-04 11:12
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I can't say the "full" version of Esato ever presents any problem, it's still pretty lightweight as far as modern web sites go - it's the javascript heavy pages that tend to crash it in my experience. It's for Apple to fix anyway, Safari should be able to handle the full version of anything.
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Posted: 2008-11-04 11:21
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I have always found (with any phone) that if you switch it on/off once or twice a week then you won't encounter any crashes.
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Posted: 2008-11-04 11:25
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On 2008-11-04 11:21:33, bavlondon2 wrote:
I have always found (with any phone) that if you switch it on/off once or twice a week then you won't encounter any crashes.



Not a problem with the iPhone... i probably reboot it a couple of times a day!

@Boinng I was just referring to the log in problems with the full html www.esato.com...think it seems to be a problem on the iphone and the site. But yeah, safari should be able to handle anything thats thrown at it... especially flash
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Posted: 2008-11-04 11:47
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On 2008-11-04 11:09:04, bavlondon2 wrote:
I boguht iChess on the weekend and honeestly its the best game I have ever played on any phone haha Such a simple game but so thrilling!!! Im still new to chess but I beat the computer for the first time this morning on the train into work.



you should try caissa chess, its my favourite chess app, infact i have deleted all the other ones and just kept this one
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Posted: 2008-11-04 12:02
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On 2008-11-04 11:25:53, RyaN wrote:


Not a problem with the iPhone... i probably reboot it a couple of times a day!



Mine crashes several times a day, even when connected via wifi.
A Vodafone rep said it was a known problem caused by moving from cellsite to cellsite and getting 'stuck' during the handover. Perhaps the same thing happens when moving from router to router at Uni?
Anyway, I'm praying that 2.2 fixes it and I agree other less important tweaks can wait. I also have issues with passwords, pleased I'm not alone.
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Posted: 2008-11-04 14:33
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On 2008-11-04 11:47:21, NoKia wrote:

On 2008-11-04 11:09:04, bavlondon2 wrote:
I boguht iChess on the weekend and honeestly its the best game I have ever played on any phone haha Such a simple game but so thrilling!!! Im still new to chess but I beat the computer for the first time this morning on the train into work.



you should try caissa chess, its my favourite chess app, infact i have deleted all the other ones and just kept this one


I will thank you!
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Posted: 2008-11-04 18:19
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End of Jailbreaking......

Apple's new iTunes surprise: No more jailbreaking
Posted by Matt Asay

You just bought a new MacBook Pro. You can't wait to pull it out of the box and sync it with your shiny new iPhone. Perhaps you travel abroad a lot, and you can't afford to pay AT&T's insane international roaming rates (Who can?). Or perhaps you have an application that Apple won't provide you through its App Store but that can be installed on a jailbroken phone.

If you have a new MacBook, you may be out of luck. If you have Windows, however, you should be fine. The irony is stifling.

Gizmodo is reporting that Apple has found a novel way to prevent the jailbreaking of its iPhones, one that no cracking of the iPhone firmware is going to fix. This time, Apple apparently is using a custom build of iTunes in the newest MacBook line to stymie attempts to jailbreak iPhones:

The new aluminum MacBooks...don't seem to be able to recognize an iPhone or iPod Touch when it is booted into DFU mode, a vital requirement for jailbreaking...Though the hardware is where one sees the most conspicuous changes in the new MacBook, this problem most likely stems from a subtle software modification. It's not clear what specifically changed, but a new build of iTunes, unique to the new MacBooks, seems like a likely culprit.

In this iPhone cat-and-mouse game, Apple seems to be turning to ever more ingenious methods to keep cash rolling in the door. Customers? Well, their best bet for circumventing Apple's wily ways is to jailbreak the iPhone using Windows-based iTunes.

How ironic (and sad) is that? The more we buy into Apple, the less freedom. Sounds like Microsoft, doesn't it? This time, however, it's worse, because Apple also controls the hardware.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10081924-16.html?tag=bnpr
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Posted: 2008-11-04 18:29
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Hmmm...

Well sadly for Apple, Quickpwn was created so the restoring of custom firmware through itunes is no longer necessary so they might not be as clever as they think! The dev team are always a step ahead

And once it's jailbroken, even if you needed to restore a custom firmware to an iphone/ipod touch, you dont need to put it in to DFU mode, just a shift+click on restore and away you go...

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Posted: 2008-11-04 18:37
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the Dev team are always one step ahead

on a serious note, this is one of the reasons i dislike apple as a company and the way they manage the whole iphone business, they cripple the phone refuse to give the most basic of capabilities and expend all this time and energy into trying to stop people from improving it
i will not feel guilty the next time i install a cracked app
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Posted: 2008-11-04 18:45
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i love apple and it's stupid tactics.. guess they want all the iphone users out there to give up on the new macs and switch back to pc's...
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Posted: 2008-11-05 10:03
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They mananged to lock out unlocking altogether on the 3G model so who knows what they have up their sleeve next.
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