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XPHCTOC
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I''l add something to your post.
The first thing - if you read about human eye, its sensitivity and so on you can find out that 16.7mil of colors is marketing. This was proven and it's obvious.
The other thing is far more important. If someone doesn't know LCD works this way:
- there is source of light under the crystals and there are color filters over crystals. For each pixel there are 3 crystals (with red, green, blue filters over them). To create 262k of colors you have to give certain amount of power to each pixel. To create 16.7mil of colors you have to give MORE power to each pixel than for 262k. This math is simple. More power equals more battery drain.
So - If there is no difference for human eye when using 262k or 16.7mil and 16.7mil drains more battery which one do you choose?
+12 Tomasz.luch
I TOTALLY AGREE
Edit: I think we should stop talking about the screen... There are many remaining questions (is there an equalizer? does it have xvid support?)
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iqtidar
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is this the iphone killer? *sarcasm* 
great hardware................................... thats all i can say. |
McKinley
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AMOLED is not such a deal breaker for me and nor is the amount of colours as long as it exceeds 65k.
In a display with that high resolution, 65k is not enough because you clearly see a more obvious colour transition but having four times as much as SEXperia X1 makes a big difference in terms of smooth colour transition.
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sealover94
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On 2009-11-03 12:42:22, iqtidar wrote:
is this the iphone killer? *sarcasm*
great hardware................................... thats all i can say.
Seriously..is this looking like iphone killer to you ?? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ytEOOTGtIo
Soooo slow!
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tomasz.luch
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Back to discussion.
I am really dissapointed. And its not about X10. Its about company doing the same mistake again. Showing device in alpha stage. Without finished and polished software.
This device is awesome and I am sure after optimization it will do great in terms of response times.
I know its marketing thing. Motorola showed their device, time is running out and so on but... showing unfinished product is not good way of stealing Motorolas thunder...
I am eagerly waiting for updates in dev paper, for new leaked movies showing optimized software and for price information 
I am not here and I am not there. Where am I? |
XPHCTOC
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@Iqtidar: Two things are missing bigger internal memory and the multitouch "gadget"*. It will be a serious competitor for sure.
*I cannot say multitouch changed my life (I use two computers with multitouch capabilities and it's clearly a gadget, only a gadget).
That's funny to play with google earth with two fingers that's all! But I can do exactly the same thing by double tapping.
@Tomasz.luch: they have made exactly the same mistake with an alpha X1 at 2008 MWC...
@sealover: that's an early prototype! And I would like to make a precision: the donut under UX is VERY FAST (you can see how fast the browser is). They need to improve their UX.
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I'm sure the speed will be fixed and optimized before the official release. I really like that phone. I'm not sure how many colours does the screen have - 16millions or 262k.
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sealover94
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On 2009-11-03 12:49:51, XPHCTOC wrote:
@Iqtidar: Two things are missing bigger internal memory and the multitouch "gadget"*. It will be a serious competitor for sure.
*I cannot say multitouch changed my life (I use two computers with multitouch capabilities and it's clearly a gadget, only a gadget).
That's funny to play with google earth with two fingers that's all! But I can do exactly the same thing by double tapping.
Edit: they have made exactly the same mistake with an alpha X1 at 2008 MWC...
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@Xristo (prepei na to paradextoume) this is not the device we are all expexted.. and i understand some people being angry with me here..
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motvikt
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On 2009-11-03 12:47:28, tomasz.luch wrote:
Back to discussion.
I am really dissapointed. And its not about X10. Its about company doing the same mistake again. Showing device in alpha stage. Without finished and polished software.
This device is awesome and I am sure after optimization it will do great in terms of response times.
I know its marketing thing. Motorola showed their device, time is running out and so on but... showing unfinished product is not good way of stealing Motorolas thunder...
I am eagerly waiting for updates in dev paper, for new leaked movies showing optimized software and for price information
agree. SE really did a misstake showing it in an alpha-state. For people like me it doesnt matter, I know it will be fixed and im still gonna buy it (love it!). But all the n00bs are now complaining about the laggy interface and how SE always f**k it up. Makes me sad that SE did such a poor job presenting this wonderful device 
about price, the swedish site "mobil" said 6000sek, a little less than 600euros. |
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Might I add that the prototype handsets don't rely on the GPU power of the Snapdragon chipset? Currently, everything is being rendered by the 1 GHz CPU. Anyone with just the slightest bit of computer knowledge will tell you that CPU's suck at rendering graphics, so the CPU in the X10 is actually doing quite a good job already. It'll be much improved once they transfer the calculations to the GPU.
Just wait for it to get announced. More info will be available there.
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SE-Naz
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Im confident that they will not sell the handset if the software is that slow... I woul definitely class as that being an early proto...
The software will be a lot better by the time its ready for sale, im sure of that...
This is the first  handset in a long time im interested in... Hopefully it will tick all the boxes
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motvikt
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On 2009-11-03 12:55:36, Mizzle wrote:
Might I add that the prototype handsets don't rely on the GPU power of the Snapdragon chipset? Currently, everything is being rendered by the 1 GHz CPU. Anyone with just the slightest bit of computer knowledge will tell you that CPU's suck at rendering graphics, so the CPU in the X10 is actually doing quite a good job already. It'll be much improved once they transfer the calculations to the GPU.
Just wait for it to get announced. More info will be available there.
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Love posts like this! thx |
iqtidar
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On 2009-11-03 12:45:04, sealover94 wrote:
On 2009-11-03 12:42:22, iqtidar wrote:
is this the iphone killer? *sarcasm*
great hardware................................... thats all i can say.
Seriously..is this looking like iphone killer to you ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ytEOOTGtIo
Soooo slow!
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-03 11:51 ]
didnt see the "sarcasm" part? |
obakesan
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That is painful, even more so when you consider this supposed to have a 1GHz Snapdragon which is meant to be fast, etc. One would hope it runs lightning quick when released, but not a good start when presenting such a new device and it runs so slow. Probably put people of and look at the other devices coming to market.
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sealover94
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On 2009-11-03 13:01:24, iqtidar wrote:
On 2009-11-03 12:45:04, sealover94 wrote:
On 2009-11-03 12:42:22, iqtidar wrote:
is this the iphone killer? *sarcasm*
great hardware................................... thats all i can say.
Seriously..is this looking like iphone killer to you ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ytEOOTGtIo
Soooo slow!
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-03 11:51 ]
didnt see the "sarcasm" part?
yes i'm reffering to some other guys here  |
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