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Brightspark
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Posted: 2009-02-05 03:56
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On 2009-02-05 01:09:20, NoKia wrote:

On 2009-02-05 00:58:41, Brightspark wrote:

On 2009-02-05 00:47:49, NoKia wrote:

On 2009-02-04 19:40:14, Bhavv wrote:


But lets be trully honest. Out of the millions of people buying an Iphone, how many of them have actually owned a smartphone, a cameraphone, or a phone with HSDPA and decent internet before? I would at a guess say less then 25% of them, mostly the mobile phone fanatics who are rich enough to buy just about every device on the market will have had a similar phone before the Iphone. However, the majority of Iphone users, prior to owning an Iphone had a rubbish device, for exampe I have come across several Americans on various forums that have gone from using a Motorolla Razr to the Iphone, and there are many more that switched from other low end devices to the Iphone.

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this paragraph has to be the most retarded comment i have ever read on this forum, and even in this thread full of ignorant comments, even sillier than the deluded funny guy who thinks the nokia 5800 is the greatest phone on earth, and the hitler comparisons, and the other moronic titbits it still stands out in class of its own.
So iphone users love it becuase over 75% of them are used to rubbish phones? obviously these stats are based on a survey you did yourself?
i cant even be bothered to argue about this

actually, he has a good point. a great many are used to crap phones. considering that america is the main selling ground for the iphone and america is a 3rd world country regarding phones, the i think you'll find that a large proportion of iphone users are used to crap phones...whether they come from the US or not.
his post is more practical and realistic than yours

[ This Message was edited by: Brightspark on 2009-02-04 23:59 ]

lol of course it is and Britney is from america right? ...incase u missed it nearly every iphone user in this thread is in the UK
i doubt there is even one from the US

whats the demographics of esato got to do with the comment about iphone users? for example, how does it make it any less or more valid?
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Posted: 2009-02-05 03:57
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On 2009-02-05 03:38:42, SloopJohnB wrote:
Bhavv,
itīs no suprise to me that you are a kid, iīve kinda noticed before. But you need to mature a bit before you can have a real discussion with someone. Most people on this forum are mobile enthusiasts or people that need these devices for work or more serious tasks. Letīs not turn it into a kindergarden fight īi have thisī īmy dad gave me thatī and so on.

Can someone lock this thread please?


Some people just dont understand sarcasm. I was pretending to sound as annoying as Iphone lovers sound to me. You really dont like me talking like a kid, so why do so many Iphone fans need to jump into a complaint thread about the phone and start defending it at every chance they get. It is a good phone yes, but it is far from revolutionary, nor does have features that are worth its price cost.
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Posted: 2009-02-05 04:59
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I am not trying to defend the iphone at all cost, itīs just that many people have wrong ideas about it or havent use it all and come here to speak rubbish about it. When users call it īrevolutionaryī they mean the iphone changed the market and somehow the way we use smartphones. Thatīs NOT opinion. Itīs FACT. Even if you donīt like the iphone, most companies are designing phones today that borrowed something from the iphone somehow (new UI, multitouch, app shop, media store, safari-like browser and so on).

This discussion is getting old. I vote for this thread being locked.
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Posted: 2009-02-05 08:25
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Bhavv, your whole point seems to revolve around the fact that you don't want an iPhone because you need a high spec camera - well that's fine, and reflects your own personal priorities, but it says absolutely nothing about whether the iphone is a good product, or "revolutionary", or anything else - only that it doesn't meet one specific requirement of yours. Big deal.

As a side argument you seem intent on dividing iphone ownership between two stereotypes - the Britney loving, RAZR-touting American who doesn't know any better, and the multi-device "enthusiast" with more gadgets than sense. Firstly I should probably point out the flaw in your argument that americans don't buy SE's or Nokias so don't know about touchscreens - while it's true that symbian phones like the P series etc never got a good foothold in the US, Windows Mobile phones like the Omnia are nothing new and have been selling in the states for many years - and yes, many devout WinMo users in the states and elsewhere have since switched to the iPhone. We can both quote anecdotal evidence - I'm sure I've seen just as many WM switchers as you've seen RAZR fans. Of course the iphone has successfully hit the mainstream and attracted traditional "dumbphone" users in their droves too, but that's just another measure of its revolutionary status.

Secondly, let me break your other stereotype - I'm not a rich man by any means and I've never carried more than one phone - I have one contract just like you, and replace my phone only at 12 or 18 month intervals as dictated by my contract. Unlike you the camera isn't a big deal for me, so I've concentrated on having the best smart/PDA type phones I could get on contract over the last five years or so. I've already done WinMo (my Tytn 2 last year ran WM6.1 just like the Omnia) and I used SE touchscreen smartphones exclusively before that, so the history of touchscreen smartphones is no mystery to me. I've lived with no less than four previous touchscreen smartphones (the P800, P910, M600, and Tytn 2) each over a full year or more. Despite that, the iPhone I'm using now is the most revolutionary device I've had, and I've never been more satisfied with a device or enjoyed a phone more. Can you honestly tell me I'm wrong?

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Posted: 2009-02-05 17:26
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Turns out MWEB could make a living out of telling the future after all.
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Posted: 2009-02-05 20:56
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On 2009-02-05 17:26:38, gtr83 wrote:
Turns out MWEB could make a living out of telling the future after all.


Actually MWEB got it plumb wrong, he was on his "imaging" hobbyhorse and expecting me to talk about the iPhone's camera, but I've nothing more to say on that subject
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Lol is this like the "see how much s*** you can cram into a post before the severs crash" thread
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Posted: 2009-02-06 11:40
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wow, where did this thread come from...already 7 pages long??? lol...

i think i have something to add here...iīve been a SE fan for 5 years, sometimes even being a bit irrational about it...

recently i get fed up with the way SE concentrates on crap feature phones, while destroyed the advantage they had on touchscreen based smartphones (they started before the others)

i was also fortunate to get an iphone (as a prize on a contest), so i opted to sell my beloved P1 while it had some value...

now...iīve been using the iphone for about 2 months...and all i can i say is i was wrong on alot of stuff i said about it before...

yes, it does annoy me in several subjects, well known...my P1 was better than it in alot of stuff

yes, if it was not jailbroken, my experience will be ALOT worse

even so, iīve NEVER used mobile email like i do now...same goes to twitter, facebook etc...iīve NEVER used a smartphone to view and edit photos like i do now; same goes to reading comics; etc

i thought multitouch was a not a must on a touch screen device...i WAS WRONG...when i tried a normal touch screen device after (xperia x1), the thing looked primitive, i just could not do what i was used to

the little details found in stuff like the clock app, the amazing amount of software coming everyday, the fact it is a real gaming platform right now (i sold my ds), etc, all make me not regret using it (i sold my ds)

even so, there is alot to improve...apple has to step up and target all the know software flaws in the upcoming major firmware revision (3.0)

to end it, i can say that now i understand why this thing shook the mobile market like an hell of an earthquake


p.s.: iīve NEVER owned an apple product before
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Posted: 2009-02-06 15:28
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Well said, Ares.
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Posted: 2009-02-07 06:17
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On 2009-02-04 00:11:02, bavlondon2 wrote:
As someone mentioned earlier in this thread the sheer amounf of attention the iphone recieves is indicitive of just how good it is and just how envious others are of it. I guess iphone owners can take it as a compliment.




Its funny to see that the same people that criticize others for saying that choosing the iPhone is a mistake, say the same thing the other way round.

Like many others here, i dont like most things of the iPhone. I discuss this with a friend since iPhoneīs existence (yes its stupid, but we do it anyways). Some say that simplicity is iphone`s point, but at the same time you have billions of stupid "apps" to add the functions the phone lacks ( bluetooth,mms ,etc). I even saw an app to make your iphone a mirror ( the only thing that it did was to put the display in black) and the developer claimed to had been developing an special algorithm to make it darker. So you end up filling it with aplications to make it work like it should from the beggining.

Well, its obviously a matter of taste, i got to say it have some positive things, but i still dont like it. If you do, then great.


Maybe the Iphone will cause world war III , who knows ? XD
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Posted: 2009-02-07 06:28
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There are over 15.000 apps there, do you expect all or even most of them to be great? lol
I personally use a lot the medical apps, isilo for palm docs, airshare for office docs and a bunch of 3d games that are the best iīve seen on a phone (real soccer, brothers in arms, monkey ball, time crisis and etc).
Thereīs a very silly app which I really like though, itīs one that turns your iphone into a lightsaber. The cowbell one itīs really funny, the one that turns your phone into an ocarina is fun too.
Most of the apps will always be silly free/cheap apps, but there are great apps there too, you just have to look around a bit and they are easy to find.
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Posted: 2009-02-07 09:46
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@hf1344

That's why I said the appstore concept is weird, since the functions of some of those apps are already a default for the "primitive" phones that the iPhone is (supposedly) slaughtering right now. I know what you mean, I saw an app that can make it look like a half-drank beer pitcher and nothing else. Pretty weird. But then, the open source nature of the iPhone deserves to be congratulated.
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On 2009-02-07 09:46:43, gtr83 wrote:
...I know what you mean, I saw an app that can make it look like a half-drank beer pitcher and nothing else. Pretty weird. But then, the open source nature of the iPhone deserves to be congratulated.


iPint? I have that App even though I don't drink. It's great for showing off what the iPhone can do!

The iPhone is definately not open-source. Apple have made creating, selling and buying Apps easier that's all. I had never bought a Smartphone App before and have been pretty disappointed with the Java Apps I've used on my SE phones (except for Opera Mini) but the App Store has changed that. It's easy for everyone - herein lies Apple's stroke of genius.

Getting ordinary consumers to download Apps to a smartphone to the tune of 300 million in 6 months - that's revolutionary!
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Err, I meant that the iPhone is actually very moddable if you look at the versatility of the platform, but you'll have to pay for it a.k.a the appstore concept. Yep I think it was called iPint
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On 2009-02-07 06:17:25, hf1344 wrote:

On 2009-02-04 00:11:02, bavlondon2 wrote:
As someone mentioned earlier in this thread the sheer amounf of attention the iphone recieves is indicitive of just how good it is and just how envious others are of it. I guess iphone owners can take it as a compliment.




Its funny to see that the same people that criticize others for saying that choosing the iPhone is a mistake, say the same thing the other way round.

Like many others here, i dont like most things of the iPhone. I discuss this with a friend since iPhoneīs existence (yes its stupid, but we do it anyways). Some say that simplicity is iphone`s point, but at the same time you have billions of stupid "apps" to add the functions the phone lacks ( bluetooth,mms ,etc). I even saw an app to make your iphone a mirror ( the only thing that it did was to put the display in black) and the developer claimed to had been developing an special algorithm to make it darker. So you end up filling it with aplications to make it work like it should from the beggining.

Well, its obviously a matter of taste, i got to say it have some positive things, but i still dont like it. If you do, then great.


Maybe the Iphone will cause world war III , who knows ? XD


What sets is apart is that normally if you dont like a particular phone you wouldnt spend so much time in that phones thread on a forum telling others so much how you DON'T like it.

Yet with iphone it seems everyone who doesn't like it feels the need to tell everyone how much they don't like it. Why do you think that is?

They are either closet iphone fans or are just envious that no one is giving their formely uber cool S60 device the same attention. It's kind of like an old girlfriend crying out for attention when a new better looking girlfriend comes along.
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