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bavlondon2
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Yes there is a negative stigma attached to muslims in the UK at the moment but that is expected given what has happened over here.
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naveedaziz83
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On 2009-01-18 18:16:50, thomas93 wrote:
With all due respect, I understand that Palestines are angry at the loss of their homeland but their is plenty of other Muslim countries in the world.
I am not trying to be rude, but i am nt sure exactly what you mean by this sentence. The only conclusion I can draw from this sentence is that i can throw anyone out of their home and tell them to find a new place because there is plenty of houses available outside? that does not makes much too sense does it.
I am sure you will be equally mad and angry if someone who you invited to your home to stay at difficult times (Hitlers era) tries to kick you out of it and claim authority. Imagine being in that situation.
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KingBooker5
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On 2009-01-18 19:39:12, bavlondon2 wrote:
Yes there is a negative stigma attached to muslims in the UK at the moment but that is expected given what has happened over here.
imo I do think the whole "negative stigma" attached to muslims in the UK is a slightly exaggerated one. A couple of years after the July 7 bombings, in many cases the media is promoting Islam as a religion of peace and the government is supporting that. Gordan Brown even gave a Ramadan Mubarak greeting from his youtube channel. |
Logicbloke
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The need to create a jewish country ? I saw some ultra orthodox jews saying that according to their religion it's forbidden to create a jewish country and why this country specially ? Imagine if they took uk well there must be a jewish country in the end .
@peterkay know exactly how you feel when you know the truth and the media doesn't mention it at all it's really frustrating sometimes it gets worse they change the facts they create the events that they reports like Fox news Rupert MURDOCH's property a jew who leads many famous compagnies .... take a look here http://www.outfoxed.org
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gtr83
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Politics and religion don't deserve to be mixed and that's exactly what some people are doing, causing us to debate here.
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naveedaziz83
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yes, they dont go together, but unfortunately, they are mixed ...
also logicbloke, when i click the link, it brings me back to the same page ... wonder whts happening there
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Logicbloke
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Same page ? Try to enter manually on your browser www.outfoxed.org wow what a method to avoid what i said but you got it you understand it but you still can't understand how and why and then you started asking yourself questions like what's my goal in life ? Why am i here that kind of things but yeah jewish people hates israel and that's a fact and religion is what our lives are all about .
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gtr83
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Jewish people hate Israel?  A good example of my theory would be the Crusades. A lotta people believe it's the ultimate Islam VS Christianity conflict while deep down it's all politics and imperialism. Why, Israelites look like saints compared to several of the secular Popes!
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KingBooker5
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On 2009-01-18 23:44:08, Logicbloke wrote:
The need to create a jewish country ? I saw some ultra orthodox jews saying that according to their religion it's forbidden to create a jewish country and why this country specially ? Imagine if they took uk well there must be a jewish country in the end .
Whats your point? There are some extreme muslims that claim its good to blow people up.
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Logicbloke
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An ultra orthodox jew burned his israeli passport in london another fired israel's flag somewhere in the uk. And others claiming the boycott of israel's products
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bavlondon2
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I cant stand all these protests going on in London. I would love to catch one of these eegits smashing upm starbucks. Id give them a real hiding too. At the end of the day both sides have commited murder. I mean Hamas are a terrorist group for gods sake. Does the cause justify the actions? No never.
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PeterKay
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Just a reminder here......
We will all die one day
we ain't here forvever
The truth will be revealed on the day of Judgement
for which i cannot wait.
edit: Who's a terrorist you decide:
Israel 13 dead
Gaza 1321 dead + a few thousand injured/wounded
Bavlondon, stop talking shit.
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badassmam
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@ Bavlondon
Without Hamas, every Palestinian would be dead. If someone comes to your doorstep to take your house and kill your family, what would you do? The Palestinian kids go to fight with stones, to save their land and protect whats left of their families. This is not like getting mugged in London, people are being buried under their homes.
All this stuff about terrorism, extremism and fundamentalism is all media hype. What does the word fundamentalist mean? Someone who follows the laws and beliefs exactly so does that make a Nun a fundamentalist? Is Jesus an extremist because he followed the word of God?
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julias
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On 2009-01-19 21:21:01, bavlondon2 wrote:
I cant stand all these protests going on in London. I would love to catch one of these eegits smashing upm starbucks. Id give them a real hiding too. At the end of the day both sides have commited murder. I mean Hamas are a terrorist group for gods sake. Does the cause justify the actions? No never.
you have no clue what your saying. what israel is doing to the palestinians is nothing short of mass murder and genocide. As for hamas they are in no way terrorists they are people who are left with no choice as the previous member mentioned what would you do if someone broke into your home took your property and murdered your family? the conflict there has been complicated by the america this could all end if they stop the supply of arms to israel so america is as much to blame for whats going on over there. |
Dogmann
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Well i really can't believe just how many Muslim extremists appear to be harboring @Esato with so much hate i suggest you go on a Jihad and catch a nice American made bullet so you can get your how ever many virgins it is your promised.
Lets get some simple points straight HAMAS are a TERRORIST organisation that wants the destruction of Israel. It fires rockets into residential areas with no Military presence to target civilians in a attempt to kill and instill terror and has done over the last couple of years. This is not a one off new attack but sustained and now Israel has decided enough is enough and they will stop it. Now some of you are surprised Israel would retaliate why i ask? To have stopped the conflict well before it escalated into full military action was easy all HAMAS had to do was stop firing rockets into Israel so blame HAMAS for what is happening.
The reason why their are civilian casualties is because HAMAS are cowards and hide amongst civilians and fire rockets from these locations knowing full well Israel will retaliate and end up injuring their own people but just don't care as want to use the press generated for their own good. Maybe some of you should see the hate that is preached to the young in Palestine that Bav appears to have witnessed to see where this circle of hate and violence stems from in reality. HAMAS and the Palestinians are not innocent and doing nothing and being attacked are they? No they are firing Rockets into Israel explain the justification for that then amongst all the lies.
One of the reasons the Palestinian people have so little is due to the major corruption and funds that disappear along with how much they waste on arms and rockets. Think how much food and medicine could be bought with money wasted on munitions.
Finally just what would the British Government do if Rockets where being fired from Wales into England? Just take it and do nothing i doubt it in fact name any Country that would have continued Rocket attacks at it's civilian population and do nothing i bet you can't.
Now for some of you like QVGA Guantanmo Bay is to good for terrorist racist SCUM like you.
Oh and thanks for the laugh about the great jewish conspiracy running all the worlds money and even funnier the USA as that is just so pathetic it's hysterical.
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