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smol
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Posted: 2008-06-13 20:56
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why would anyone want to give up a P1i for SE G900? except for the 5 MP camera the phone is no better than the P1i. no HSCSD, no EDGE, no infra-red, no QWERTY common how is this different from the P1 or even worse
OluYom
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Posted: 2008-06-13 21:31
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On 2008-06-13 20:56:40, smol wrote:
why would anyone want to give up a P1i for SE G900? except for the 5 MP camera the phone is no better than the P1i. no HSCSD, no EDGE, no infra-red, no QWERTY common how is this different from the P1 or even worse

Its called adventure.

Or else, why would anyone give up the warm comfort of his home to go climb a frozen, desolate thing like the Alps? Or leave the relative security of having their feet on firm ground to go on a crazy mission to the moon?

Adventure, my man!
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Posted: 2008-06-14 15:13
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May not be advenure in this case because Mamba did list some perceived shortcomings of the P1...that is why he is looking forward to the G900.

So, O'yom where are you exploring soon? Windows Mobile Land? because it seems like the the P5 will be disappointment going by the specs.

Have you guys noticed that everytime Apple coughs out a phone, the dedicated Windows Mobile and Symbian sites get defensive and start comparing their respective flagship phones to Apple's? Such impact from one company !!!

[ This Message was edited by: brym! on 2008-06-14 14:21 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-14 18:18
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@brym: Yes; I understand about mamba. In my own case, its adventure.

Yes; I am looking at Windows Mobile. Honestly, I am getting disappointed with Symbian offerings, and I do suspect that WM may not be significantly different.

But I really want to try out more powerful processors and different interfaces. I wish the iPhone had a QWERTY keyboard and a few other things like: Office documents editing and 3rd party application installation. The UI is so smashing that I'd forget about Symbian and WM. But the iPhone is so crippled without those that I really wonder why anyone calls it a smartphone!
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Posted: 2008-06-16 01:48
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@O'Yom: With the release of iPhone's SDK a couple of months back, one should expect some quality apps from developers sooner. The business features will be added gradually and sooner than we know it Apple will drop this "touch" emphasis and release a keyboard device aimed at business users. Apple can't continue to ignore the business users especially in the US because they push the smartphone market over there.

Looking at the current smartphone landscape including the recent HTC releases, I still can't see a formidable QWERTY device that beats the multimedia and business features of the P1, all packaged in a compact size. So, the P1 continues to rule my world and I am planning to arm it with a 4GB card soon.
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Posted: 2008-06-16 02:14
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Posted: 2008-06-16 02:17
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@brym: I agree about the P1. It is arguably king at the moment. Even the E90 is let down by lack of copy/paste in text editing mode.

But I am bored And when I'm bored, the tendency to do a stupid thing like give up a great device for something different is there. I call it adventure. Most people will call it foolishness. Or stupidity.
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Posted: 2008-06-16 09:18
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O'Yom: I feel you. I am still struggling to get those Reltel promo offerings off my mind. Not necessarily to use the phone functions but to use it as a standalone PDA. My good old Toshiba 2032 which packed up a couple of months back served as my Bible Reader for a long time after Reltel disconnected my line. That Bible app I gave you really comes alive on a WM or Palm device where it is fully optimised.
I am just ranting anyway. I doubt if my Budget Minister will approve any new purchase so soon, she is trying to come to terms with my last stunt.
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Posted: 2008-06-16 21:04
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@Oluyom: Frankly, I don't see WM holding your attention for longer than a week. I believe you've used a WM device before, and don't think there'll be any significant change from your last experience.

@Brym: I have olive tree bible software with three bible versions on my E50, and its exactly the same as was on my iPaq so I don't think the platform makes the bible reader any different.
I also have a dictionary reader with eight different dictionaries on the same phone.
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Posted: 2008-06-16 22:40
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On 2008-06-16 21:04:19, ambyzown wrote:
@Oluyom: Frankly, I don't see WM holding your attention for longer than a week. I believe you've used a WM device before, and don't think there'll be any significant change from your last experience.

I think you've got me mixed up with someone else. I've never owned/used a WM device in my life

Still, you may be right, and WM may not hold my attention. But Symbian is killing me at the moment too. Has anyone seen the review of the just announced E71 at AllAboutSymbian? We've been expecting the E71 for so long and then Nokia throws that at us? In my book, the E71 is just as much a disappointment as the E90 was.

Maybe I should ditch Symbian, Palm and WM altogether, jump on OSX and get a shiny (but practically useless) iPhone instead?
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Posted: 2008-06-17 00:13
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On 2008-06-16 21:04:19, ambyzown wrote:
@Brym: I have olive tree bible software with three bible versions on my E50, and its exactly the same as was on my iPaq so I don't think the platform makes the bible reader any different.

Well amby, I only knew when I ran the app on Palm, WM and Symbian UIQ devices. The difference was not in the Bible versions but in the interface and navigation options. Though running on top of Olive Tree the app was actually designed for WM and Palm and so the embedded illustrations, graphics and maps only show on these devices.
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Posted: 2008-06-18 00:34
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On 2008-06-16 22:40:33, OluYom wrote:
Has anyone seen the review of the just announced E71 at AllAboutSymbian? We've been expecting the E71 for so long and then Nokia throws that at us? In my book, the E71 is just as much a disappointment as the E90 was.


I read the review today and I think it is quite an improvement for an E series Nokia. The shrunk size is to meet up with current enterprise standards. So, what is disappointing about it?
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Posted: 2008-06-18 06:36
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On 2008-06-18 00:34:18, brym! wrote:
I read the review today and I think it is quite an improvement for an E series Nokia. The shrunk size is to meet up with current enterprise standards. So, what is disappointing about it?


Yes, it is an imprivement on the E61i at least. But note the following:

- The S60 implementation used is still a little under-powered at times, most notably when opening images and playing back videos (jerky playback). In this day and age?

- Gallery is the same tired old application as in S60 devices three years ago. That dull layout!

- Messaging - another application long overdue for an update - is largely unchanged from earlier devices. Attachment support, sorting, etc are issues.

- stripped down version of the camera on the E90, with comparatively cheap optics and sensor. Its the same megapixel, but performs worse.

I like the phone. I may end up with one. My company may even kit some of our staff with a few units. I just keep asking why these manufacturers keep letting simple issues be carried over on a device that's coming out 2 years after its older sibling. That's disappointing.
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Posted: 2008-06-19 02:25
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@O'Yom: Nearly all device manufacturers are guilty of this, that is why there will never be perfect devices. To be fair to them, they take alot of factors into consideration in designing these devices and you truly cannot meet all the requirements of your target market.
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Posted: 2008-06-19 06:38
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True, but that just sucks though. That's why consumers will keep getting disappointed again and again.
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