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badassmam
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Posted: 2008-07-12 17:53
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Why does the C905 have such sh*tty video recording when such old phones can do better? How hard would it be to put in? A lot of people take more videos than pictures like myself.
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Posted: 2008-07-13 13:48
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On 2008-06-22 00:15:57, plankgatan wrote:

On 2008-06-21 22:45:53, eztoril wrote:
Hello,

I currently own a 2-year old K800, which I am quite happy with.

However, C905 seems to be perfect successor in almost every aspect. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be any Music Quick Play button on the side of the phone (as my current phone) or does the Play button next to the camera shutter button work as a Music Play button as well?

Does anyone know?

Thanks in advance!

BR Martin



took that button away on all Cybershoots phones from K850 and toward. (just a unnecessary button i think)



I absolutely disagree this is an unnecessary button. It is perfect having a play button (not affected by any key lock) available! Not to mention the great skip track buttons (holding down volume up/down buttons). This enables me to easily control the music in my pocket, without the need to bring up the phone and look at the display/navigate to the music player.

I cannot understand how SE motivates the removal of the play button! More amazingly, not even SE Walkman phones have the button nowadays!

At the same time, Nokia and others add this button to their phones!

BR,
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Posted: 2008-07-13 16:43
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Yes, it was so stupid to remove this button and I see no reason why.

I know they were limited on the C902 because most of the side slides, but on the others?

It was just as silly when SE stopped using an LED to show when you were in coverage, had a message etc. Considering most models blank the display completely to save battery, the flashing light is ideal (but, at the same time, it needed to be switchable in the menu for those that don't want a flashing light keeping them awake at night!).

The irony is that the phones usually have the LED present somewhere, but it only comes on when the battery is low and is hidden away.
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Posted: 2008-07-13 20:13
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heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey guys im really excited just cuz i found a possible video taken with this phone and belive me it looks great

im really impressived watch out and comment

http://blip.tv/file/1071638?f[....]dget-VideoTestC905Shino245.flv


it seems that the new prototype version has it all!!!:





nice.

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Posted: 2008-07-13 20:16
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It must have a VGA @ 30 fps!
Anything less than that is a sin for a 8 mp cameraphone.
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Posted: 2008-07-14 08:47
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Wow! That's amazing news. Finaly we've got VGA with 30 fps. One good reason to buy it.
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Posted: 2008-07-14 09:33
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The ironic things is that if you fitted the k750 with a big processor, you could have filmed full HD (1080i/p) at whatever fps. Its just lack the of concentration that SE have been not been forseeing. New phones, need big processors, the iphone has got a 620Mhz processor with a 128mb of ram and a GPU, of cource it needs it, but generally, it is quicker and can play music and run smoothly. If SE don't buck their ideas up this phone could fail dramatically if it is slow.
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Posted: 2008-07-14 10:03
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Great news if true, could still do with some work though.

Arne Anka
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Posted: 2008-07-14 16:58
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New phones, need big processors, the iphone has got a 620Mhz processor with a 128mb of ram and a GPU, of cource it needs it, but generally, it is quicker and can play music and run smoothly.


Maybe so, but it consumes lot of power as well and is neither small or cheap.

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Posted: 2008-07-14 18:56
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Then it's the consumer's fault if they don't want to pay more for better.
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Posted: 2008-07-15 00:19
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I hope all our VGA dreams will come true.
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Posted: 2008-07-15 01:45
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I'm yet to see a phone that has decent VGA recording for more than just holding the camera steady and filming. As soon as you introduce a lot of movement, it drops frames or 'shears' like crazy. There's simply not enough processing power, so at best you maintain the 30fps but have horrid artefacts and other nasty side effects.

If they have squeezed VGA 30fps out of the C905 I sincerely hope they'll have upped the processor speed a lot to cope. That sample video, assuming it is genuine, didn't put the camera under a lot of pressure and it's still a bit jerky.

To be honest, I think we'll have to wait a bit longer until we get a phone with the necessary processing power to do proper VGA and, as we'll soon expect, HD. We then need powerful encoding for H.264/MP4 on the fly to reduce file sizes so people can actually record more than a few minutes in a decent quality.
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eztoril
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Posted: 2008-07-15 02:29
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It would be interesting to know whether the decision regarding removing dedicated play button has support from the majority of users?
For me and those of my friends also using their phone playing music, this is one of the biggest faults made in recent years.

Especially on pure Walkman phones!

I'm that kind of customer that could pay more to get a phone excelling on both music features as well as camera features/quality. This should definitely be default for the model announced to be the top model, i.e C905!

I think the company's poor mid- to high-end phone sales result, recently presented by SE, is surely caused by the above mentioned reason.

Personally, I would really like to excange my current phone today (K800) if I could find a successor combining both worlds, camera quality and great Walkman features. No doubt about it!

The purest example of such a phone is W800, having (those times) the greatest camera available (2.0 Mpix with autofocus) in combination with superior Walkman features. World hadn't seen before features such as "flight mode", "Mega Bass", dedicated play/skip buttons, nice earplugs with 3.5 mm plug etc. Great amount of memory was also included.

All this was packaged in a nice orange/white casing, giving the product an originality. Standing out from the crowd. I think W800 is the best SE phone ever, by far!

As I see it, SE has not yet (during almost three years!) even come close to beat this phone legend!

Please give me a new SE phone alternative to my K800! I don't like to fail SE i favor of a different brand!

Thanks!

BR,
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Posted: 2008-07-15 02:31
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slider phone man booo i hate it..
plankgatan
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Posted: 2008-07-15 02:44
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little off topic but you said you like w800 because of its sound/camera... K850 and c902 (c702, etc) have newer/better megabass & newer/better sound...and they are not even pure phones...

so K850 or c902 is way better for music playing then w800 in my eyes (plus they have a 5 m.p camera featuring)

on topic

nice that c905 seems to record in VGA. (but im not that much about video recording on cell phones... think the quality never looks good enough.. just as long the camera works good,, im satisfield)

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