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mrdoubleb
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Posted: 2007-06-24 15:37
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Quite different from those fancy samples with suspect EXIF data.

[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-06-24 14:21 ]


Yeah, exactly.

Anyone still honestly thinking that this picture in the London SE store and the one with the Omega watch were taken with the same device? The whole feel of the picture is juts so very different.

If they achieved that much with firmware refinement, they must be employing Merlin at SE, LOL.
LRI
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Posted: 2007-06-24 15:45
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On 2007-06-24 15:30:28, Marc_SE wrote:
I just took the pic, didn't fine tune any settings - just point and clicked. I'm gonna see if I can borrow one for a day or two, so will have to take more pics if I get my hands one one.



you didnt resave or anything? there's very little(none) exif info and the resolutions doesnt seem to be right.

just wondering
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Posted: 2007-06-24 15:48
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I BT-ed the file to my K810i to take away, so I'll upload it to Flickr.

EDIT: http://www.flickr.com/photo_exif.gne?id=611622960

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LRI
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Posted: 2007-06-24 16:02
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tnx

thats alot of noise though, how where the lightning conditions in your opinion?

It seems the 3,2mpix SE camera has less noise when comparing with this picture.

Oh well guess I'll just hafto wait and see what the final result will be.
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Posted: 2007-06-24 16:11
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On 2007-06-24 09:12:47, masada71 wrote:
does anybody knows if you can take a pic except landscape mode like k800 with center button??anyone??


I think it's impossible according to the videos...
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Posted: 2007-06-24 16:30
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On 2007-06-24 15:32:29, mrdoubleb wrote:
. . .
There is only one thing: you see the typical CMOS noise, but that was expected (sadly).
. . .

I'm wondering why wouldn't use Sony's excellent 5MP CCD chip for this phone. Worries about battery life? Weight? Life expectancy? Price?

I believe someone in this thread already preordered this phone? Feelings of regrets coming on??
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Posted: 2007-06-24 16:50
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On 2007-06-24 16:30:52, AbuBasim wrote:

On 2007-06-24 15:32:29, mrdoubleb wrote:
. . .
There is only one thing: you see the typical CMOS noise, but that was expected (sadly).
. . .

I'm wondering why wouldn't use Sony's excellent 5MP CCD chip for this phone. Worries about battery life? Weight? Life expectancy? Price?

I believe someone in this thread already preordered this phone? Feelings of regrets coming on??


They would gladly put and entire SLR unit into a phone, but who's going to buy a phone for 2500$? Thats the point.
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Posted: 2007-06-24 17:10
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Sony dont want to lose sales on their cam department....
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LRI
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Posted: 2007-06-24 17:23
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On 2007-06-24 16:30:52, AbuBasim wrote:

On 2007-06-24 15:32:29, mrdoubleb wrote:
. . .
There is only one thing: you see the typical CMOS noise, but that was expected (sadly).
. . .

I'm wondering why wouldn't use Sony's excellent 5MP CCD chip for this phone. Worries about battery life? Weight? Life expectancy? Price?

I believe someone in this thread already preordered this phone? Feelings of regrets coming on??



cost, size, and I think I remember the CCD to be slower so it cant be used to capture video.
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Posted: 2007-06-24 17:32
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what r u talkin about man, the i-mobile 902 came with a ccd cam and it took videos in VGA avi and it was fast as hell
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Posted: 2007-06-24 18:02
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On 2007-06-24 15:48:13, Marc_SE wrote:
I BT-ed the file to my K810i to take away, so I'll upload it to Flickr.

EDIT: http://www.flickr.com/photo_exif.gne?id=611622960

[ This Message was edited by: Marc_SE on 2007-06-24 14:51 ]


I'm not an expert but i think the EXIF data confirms my suspicion of the "auto" white balance which would explain the crappy colors. (If "Metering Mode: Center Weighted Average" means what I think it means)

Also, the firmware seems to be a very early version ("R1AB056") so they could still improve on that. Notice that the pictures in the previous posts by plankgatan had the (supposed) firmware version "R9JA001" which could explain the improvements in quality in his shots.

The one with the Omega watch is still fake though, I think.
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Posted: 2007-06-24 18:18
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On 2007-06-24 16:50:00, QVGA wrote:
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They would gladly put and entire SLR unit into a phone, but who's going to buy a phone for 2500$? Thats the point.



On 2007-06-24 17:23:02, LRI wrote:
cost, size, and I think I remember the CCD to be slower so it cant be used to capture video.

"Slower" would imply less sensitive to light, wouldn't it? That's exactly the problem with CMOS.

Hmm... again we come to this phone using Sony's 5 MP CCD, reviewed here. Take note of the low light photos taken in the coffee shop/restaurant, like this one for example!
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Posted: 2007-06-24 18:33
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Cool, I might get 1 soon
LRI
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Posted: 2007-06-24 20:15
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sorry, was looking at different CCD sensor, so its problebly a cost, size issue..
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Posted: 2007-06-24 23:03
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questions I have about i-mobile 902:

UI?
Stability?
What if mine breaks? Am I f**ked?

Abu, when you get yours, can you please offer us your perspective in a review?

For 250 bucks, it really hurts the SE...
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